Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

i likes this virtual keyboard layout but sadly it missing some symbol in it....
symbol such as ' % ' is no were to be found....
old virtual keyboard have full symbol on it but this no doesn't....

please re-defined/add those symbol back....

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I haven't installed fastsmsevo yet and have seen this issue a few times after PR 1.3 upgrade.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Hi. I was wondering whether you have an indication of when this will hit the extras repository? I will see whether I can make a paypal account to donate some sanwiches:)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I hope soon...Now I'm quite busy with university exams, but in a pair of weeks I will be back. There are some things to fix before it hits extra-repo...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I've experienced some problems with autorotation introduced in the last CSSU...I will fix this soon...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

if you open conversations and it flips to portrait, its hard to get your vkb to show, then the txt you type doesnt go into text box after closing vkb. appreciate your hard work, look forward to any updates.

who needs nokia? :D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Lost commit may be solved since last version of fastsmsevo...Can you describe yours operations step-by-step?
Thank you!

PS "nokia"???what is it? :P

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Oh, I don't have the bugs reported within the CSSU thread involving this vkb. If opening the vkb in a portrait-locked app, as per the CSSU forced rotation (not exactly auto; but close enough) it does get stuck in portrait, but you say you already fixed that). Realsportcars: are you already upgrading the the CSSU yourself, or do you still want me to dilligently report any bugs if I do get any (none so far, hence my silence in this thread).

I think the idea of disabling the keyboard in landscape (or portrait, if you for some odd reason wanted to) was included in the initial pages back suggestion that realsportscars liked about making it a settings option to have landscape/portrait each be seperately set to default qwerty/alphanum vkbs, or disabled). No need to make it default tho.

Re % symbol suggestion: There's currently a bunch of repeats in the vkb in the Shift+123 and 123 key sets. Namely, these symbols repeat:
, ! ? - _ @ : ; " ' #

Of these, ! ? and , already exist within the normal and Shift key sets, and - exists twice in the Shift+123 set, so they can probably be removed, giving 8 free key slots. Removing one each of the remaining duplicates means 7 extra slots. % could easily be one of those replaced. Another symbol I'd suggest is the degree character °, and, well, up to realsportscars what he wants to do from there. A "Tab" key would be nice too.

Meanwhile, I have two other usability suggestions: Make the Backspace key (delete character to the left of the cursor) become a Delete key (delete character to the right of the cursor) for 123 and 123+Shift key sets. It's one of those things you barely notice when you don't have it, but find convenient when you do (I mapped Delete to my Fn+Backspace character).

Also, I still think you should move the space key over to more of the keyboard center in Qwerty and move the enter key over to the other side of the space bar (basically switch space and enter keys). I routinely accidentally press Enter when I mean to press Space when using the vkb with my left hand. (Right hand is fine, but it's unsymmetrical, and while it can be gotten used to, I think a more centered space bar is better.)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I've a little update that solve problems related to CSSU 12.1 but I can't upload due maemo.org seems to be down...

This fixes also the problem related to portrait/landscape autorotation when you close the vkb.

This works ONLY if you are using CSSU 12.1 or above and if you have forced-autorotation enabled!

@Mentalist: I will prepare a list of improvements for future updates and also a road-map based on community suggestions, so I don't risk to lose some good advice like yours :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Perhaps attach the built package so it can be tested?

This solves focus returning to the window automatically when using VKB in portrait mode with CSSU 12+ forced rotation?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

If i understood what you mean, yes: if you are in portrait and close the vkb, UI don't returns to landscape.
However now meamo.org is up and I just commited last package...

I need a feedback specially from people that uses a custom theme with a custom transitions.ini file

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I've been using both the CSSU and thanks to your brilliant scheme, I've been permanently using your vkb instead of stock. I'll try to use it in more situations and try to give feedback...

downloading CSSU 12.1 as I type this

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Just upgraded. Seem to still have an inconsistency with rotation and giving focus back to the window.

I will post a video shortly.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Did you reboot (or kill fastsms) after the upgrade???If yes, please go in /opt/fastsms/data/fastsms.log and check in first lines something like "Autorotation is ON" or "Can't find transitions.ini"
A video could be very helpful


Thank you. This is a quite delicate moment due to big and hard works done by CSSU so every feedback will be appreciated :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

wow... erm... noticed that the bootup for the vkb takes EXTRA long now... or maybe this is just situational... only for the first time around though...

besides that, no issues (tested via conversations) i.e.
1. able to rotate while vkb is on with text without losing text
2. able to touch outside the screen and text inserts to conversations normally with whatever orientation.

basically, no abnormalities at the moment and everything seems fine


Just the FIRST start up takes a realllllly long time... sometimes, I thought it would never pop up

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Seems to be sorted. Is it possible to draw the overlay smaller or placing a button that will suppress the VKB? When in portrait mode in a Conversations daughter window, only the top title-bar is active to get out of "edit" mode.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

do you have to launch fastsms before the vkb will open after upgrade? it seems so for me??

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

:) I think that extra boot time could be situational: I only add a check on transitions.ini file. No more than few milliseconds are needed for this parse, but, perhaps, if your memory is busy by another process, this could requires extra time...
Anyway I've experienced that sometimes first boot doesn't works well if performed in portait...


No, not in my intentions. Read my answer to Dark_Angel85...
However,for first run, you can start it from icon, than minimizing it (don't close) and then use normally tapping in edit-box.


Yes, I think that a smaller text field is possible, but I'm curious to know what is the problem about this...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

yes, i rebooted and waited and it worked thanks

one thing, crochik my contacts stays open in the backgound when you use it now btw

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

wow....

i tried to purposely reboot again.. clocked it in 30 secs!
that's a new record! it usually takes about a full min!

clearly my first encounter was situational! I'll try again to see if i get the same results

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Ehm...30secs?!?
It tooks less than 10secs on mine!!! What language are you using?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

English only... WOW! 10 seconds...

GOnna try to beat that now... rebooting...

oh wait... I think there are other language dicts in there.. anyway to disable everything except English? will that help?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

LOL!
I think you know this but you don't need to reboot all the phone: simply open fastsms from the icon and then close it from there...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

The reason behind a smaller input area is for ease of use in portrait mode and reduce the small area one has to select in order to exit the VKB.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

damn....... still 30 seconds..

danggggggggggggggg... howcha get 10 seconds!?!?! unfair!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

oh... just in case you probably forgot...

the english apostrophe words are not in the dict.

:)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

You probably have a bunch of stuff that runs/loads in the background at boot.

I have a somewhat heavy clock style for advanced clock plugin, and it takes a full minute for my status area to actually load when doing a boot up from completely off.

ALSO, I just realized something, for a week or two now, I've been getting a bug where "killall hildon-desktop" would result in some completely blank black pop up appearing and not going away after Hildon Desktop finished loading. Just now after updating to the fixed autorotation CSSU and fixed autorotation FastSMS, I got the same bug after finishing the update and doing the "killall hildon-desktop" command.

Normally, this bug means I can still enter text into the window under it. However, killing hildon desktop again would just cause the same thing to pop up again. However, after this update, I was able to randomly mess around with it, until suddenly, the mysterious black popup finished loading and turned out to be the FastSMS VKB, at which point I was able to click out of it, and no reboot was required. It made me pretty happy.

Now that I know it's this VKB related, I'll report on here if it keeps coming up.

Meanwhile, not seeing any bugs during actual use now with these last updates either.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Also, Realsportscars, I am about to post this in the CSSU thread too, but:

/etc/hildon/theme/transitions.ini is always the current theme's transitions.ini file, if it has one.

Basically, /etc/hildon/theme is always a symlink to the current theme. So if the above path transitions.ini exists, then you can use that command the hawaii posted to check if they have rotation forcing enabled. If that file doesn't exist, you then drop to checking the 'main' system one. As far as I know that covers everything - but for all I know theme customizer does something wierd with it's own transitions ini. *Shrug*

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Hey,

Been a great fan of your work, since the FastSMS days. This virtual keyboard replacement is truly a godsend especially now with the added system wide portrait work done by the Community SSU.

Here is a little bug report plus a future request :)

When using TwimGo your keyboard doesnt seem to function properly. Sometimes it inserts the text and other times nothing happens. Not sure if its a Qt bug but hopefully its fixable, being able to tweet with one hand would be perfect :)

For the feature request, I was hoping you could add the option to enable "Touch Screen Vibration" (haptic feedback) when using your virtual keyboard.

The reason for this is that I hate touch screen vibration apart from certain places and the virtual keyboard is the main place I desire this feature. It makes it easier to know when you have pressed a letter ect, but I dont like how in maemo the default setting turns the vibration on EVERYWHERE :(

Would it be possible to enable a little vibration feedback when ur keyboard is open and then disable it when your keyboard is closed?

Thanks for the awesome apps! :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

It's definitely possible, FWIW.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

It would be possible, though I think it should be kept outside the vkb package... Perhaps the tactile package, or something CSSU-side, can help implement some soft of tactile-feedback detailed settings?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I suppose it would be possible to disable and enable it upon VKB display, regardless of the loaded plugins.

DBUS seems to pass an Introspect member? But it doesn't send it once the VKB is hidden.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

can't appear "T" when i press "tuv" button on alphanum..
how?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Download last version from devel...

@godofwar424:
I know that in the last CSSU there is an option to enable use of "tactile". I didn't tried it yet, but perhaps this is what you are looking for. Is it?

EDIT:
about TwimGo: I don't know if it is the same app, but some times ago I read a thread about a twitter app that lose text also with standard keyboard. If it is the same application I can't do anything. however I will try to install and test it. What repository I must look?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I am using the 'tactile' option from the CSSU but that does not work when using your keyboard. Theres is no feedback when using your keyboard :(

I cannot find a thread for the development of tactile plugin either meaning I cannot ask the developer to implement it in your keyboard, I was hoping you could allow users who desire this function to enable it, in a config file in your keyboard?

For TwimGo the developer created a newer version using Qt and it can be downloaded from here.

TwimGo

Thanks

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

is it possible in alphanum mode to make the numbers come up like a,b,c,1 - d,e,f,2 etc ??

and vibe when only using your keyboard ??

THANKS

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

Numbers are in last position. In this way you can insert they simply pressing "prev".

What do you mean with "and vibe when only using your keyboard ??" ?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

touch screen vibration when using your keyboard, nowhere else

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

i decided to revert back to my original virtual keyboard not because i didn't likes your apps but it because on your last update you didn't add any symbol that really needed to text using virtual keyboard....
N900 original virtual keyboard got more symbol than your apps...
for now i will use original virtual keyboard until your latest version (as if) have all the symbol needed...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] FastSMSEvo: system virtual keyboard T9/Qwerty
 

I've got an idea for you: either write your own app so that it meets your precise need OR you can modify /opt/fastsms/data/plain.txt and ad any symbol you want in what ever order your heart desires...