Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Keep power kernel, just run it at the stock 600mhz with the lowest supported voltages of your N900. Will surely live even longer :)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I love my n900. But the writing is on the wall. Looks like we have 2 companies trying desperately to become relevant again. Can you smell the desperation? I can. MS sees its dominance in the desktop becoming less and less relevant in a world that doesn't need a desktop as much anymore. Nokia's has failed miserably in the smartphone world. Had they focused more on the n900 and maemo they may have been an option for consumers. After their failure to support the n900, why would anyone expect more from WP7. Pride goes before the fall and the unmitigated arrogance and ineptitude of these companies are coming home to roost. After the last few fails of these companies, and they way they have treated the "eco-system", I can't imagine any developers wanting to bother with these companies. They'll need to sell at least half a billion phones for anyone to bother. Epic tragedy.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

MeeGo is dead :(

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Will the existing Maemo closed-source components possibly be opened now?

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or just get a second one =) they are getting cheaper and cheaper

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No chance at all now, unless WikiLeaks gets hold of the source.

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I actually like the idea of nokia and ms. Nokia still make the best hardware for me.Their build quality is great too

Lets not forget samsung take ages to release updates - e.g all the galaxy range ( and yes i own a tab and a galaxy s)

sony ericsson - look at the x10 and others, no 2.2 for them at all and no xda devs port so far.

lg - piss poor in general.

htc are ok but still make hardware which is questionable in terms of durability - screen issues and the old htc tytn 2/ nearly all htc phones video driver problem for which i have not forgiven them ( i owned a tytn2).

the only other option is th eiphone and ill be lloking closely at the iphone 5 but id rather a nokia build with wp7. ultimatley we all more or less started with win mo anyway so its just continuing the trend.

theres no need for anyone to abandon ship unless you think for some reason the grass is greener on the other side.

still happy with my n900.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Holy crap...

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i used to like wp7 (as far as i can tell), but i read in the wp7-wiki, that it doesnt allow custom ringtones...?! thats a dealbreaker for me.
to be clear: does that mean custom ringtones in general or custom ringtones for individual contacts?

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....e-30-of-38.jpg
It was going to be MeeGo instead of "Windows Phone".


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....e-32-of-38.jpg
MeeGo R&D cut by a lot.
MeeGo will be turned into an "experimental" OS (just like maemo was...)

This sucks.
I'll ignore nokia for a couple years, probably won't visit this forum anymore (whats the point? lol)
I've started developing my android app and I've installed android on my old phone thanks to the XDA devel guys.
Good times.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

From a business standpoint, what choice did they really have?

- continue with Symbian. With the rate of market share loss it it would be single digits marketshare in 4 years
- focus on Meego. Chances are, the team on meego are the same team on Maemo. The team did not have the experience/prosessionalism to produce a finished/polished produce for mass market.
- If Meego failed (unpolished produce, 3rd party devs not adopting it) the company would be in dire dire trouble because of Symbian adoption rates
- go with Android, Google would probably not provide any special support.. treating them the same as motorola,HTC etc

If the Maemo team had taken the effort to produce a polished N900, i think the decision to go full bore with Meego would have been a no brainer.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

My favorite aspect of this is how symbian completely disappears and how much the entire budget gets slashed

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Symbian needed to go sooner or later.

I just wonder who's more hated. Muburak or Elop right now.

I predict a riot.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Hey don't get me wrong - I still think Android needs some serious work. Mainly in the form of Google stepping up and putting in some mandatory compatibility requirements from phone version to version. But its the best of a bad bunch now. Personally I will be running my N900 into the ground before I go for another phone.

Guess the community supported patches etc are looking pretty damn good now eh :)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Does Windows have to go? Does Symbian have to go? Why would the most popular OS have to go, UI? Simplest thing to fix, it's just spoilers on the car, under the hood Symbian is a Veyron SS. Elop canned it as soon as he became CEO, however he did release dead devices with a sinister laugh.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

today its elop

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Elop gonna get raped by all satisfied Symbian users. There is a lot.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Isnt TMO still funded by Nokia at the moment ? If not who provides the funding to run TMO ?

If no TMO repo how are community supported patches going to be managed ?

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Maybe Elop tenure won't be that long
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:NOK

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Why so much in WP7 R&D? Isn't that Microsoft's job? I wonder where them moneyz will go...

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i can tell you. Its going into the pocket of the devil (elop)

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i hope that the board of directors will mention this and think about what elop did to one of the greatest companies in europe... ruining it...

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His pocket must be hell..

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If I had been in the press conference, I would have thrown my shoes at him.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Its true, its much easier to fix than the stuff under the hood. It was so simple, Nokia screwed it up twice in 3 years even with a HUGE r&d budget!
The UI overhaul on n97, horrid.. horrid experience
The UI overhaul on n8, more consistent but still feels like early 2000.

There's absolutely no reason to expect them to be successful a 3rd time round. The problems are probably due to
- 10+ year old Symbian code turned to spaghetti, code changes very difficult to make without a domino effect over the rest of the code
- poor poor project management and 9am-5pm paycheck Symbian developers who are there just to fix bugs.. not rock the boat

i get the impression the Symbian software department was so fundamentally broken it could not be fixed without mass firings

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Only the cheap kind. He would suffer so much being touched by them cheap ones, or we should just pay that experienced Arab who threw them at Bush, he won't miss this time.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Goodbye my friends,
it's hard to die
when all the birds
are singing in the sky...

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

S^4 was supposed to be a huge overhaul. The team probably took their time to create a UI that would last another decade. The OS is the most optimized, can't go wrong with that.

N97 didn't have any new UI, it just introduced widgets. When it was first introduced in the trailer, most were impressed. Slow hardware gave Symbian bad rep. If they continiued the OMAP 2420 route, all would have been perfect.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Google Nexus S. That is all.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I think Android is about to get a whole lot of developers.

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This is the end of nokia. Its sad that nokia did not realize that people gravitated towards nokia because of its open software and non locked features (a la n900).

I hope it does well, but I personally will probably never buy another nokia with that blue screen of death OS.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

If you mean Symbian, agree.

If you meant Qt, disagree.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

we have a peace of history and art on our hands the powerfull n900 the legendary last good phone of nokia

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

But for Meego there was no season in the sun...

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Wait a minute, what does EasyDebian have to do with device lifespan? :confused:

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

You may wish to vote for keeping meego as described here. Just for the fun of it.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Well Symbian is the devision being scratched.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

from here
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...microsoft.html

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Ummmm, what are the features that are actually left?

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

stolen from another blog referring to Microsoft and Nokia ...

TWO TURKEYS DON'T MAKE AN EAGLE