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Estel 2011-06-20 23:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoss91 (Post 1033402)
@Estel - ahahahahahah that was funny :D:D:D . That router didn't deny all devices because a friend with an iphone 3 could connect and use their internet .

Just because he got IP leased already - any NEW device trying to connect was denied obtaining IP from DHCP for sure, unless someone pull power cord from router, or DHCP IP lease time expired ;)

@laasonen
Downloading new version, I'll test it. When it arrive on testing, I'm gonna put link for voting here for lazy ones.

Anyway, i wonder why they restarted wlancond - your approach without it definitely worked best. We'll see if this approach any bugs - if so, as i said, i think everyone can live with "too fast respawning" issue, cause it's really not like to occur in real-life experience.

Still, maybe they just did it cause everyone else was doing it? Time will tell ;)

laasonen 2011-06-21 02:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1033468)
Downloading new version, I'll test it. When it arrive on testing, I'm gonna put link for voting here for lazy ones.

Its now on extras-testing. Everyone who thinks its stable, please vote :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1033468)
Still, maybe they just did it cause everyone else was doing it? Time will tell ;)

Might be :rolleyes:

Omnious 2011-06-21 14:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
I have a question. When my bleeding drivers are loaded with the applet and i run:
Code:

/home/user # airmon-ng
i get this in return, what gives?
Code:

Interface          Chipset          Driver

wlan0          TI WL1251          wl12xx - [phy0]

Should not the driver change to wl1251 since wl12xx is stock?

Im currently running 2.6.28.10-power47 kernel with latest bleeding driver realese and seem to have problems getting injection to work properly.

laasonen 2011-06-21 14:47

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnious (Post 1034802)
I have a question. When my bleeding drivers are loaded with the applet and i run:
Code:

/home/user # airmon-ng
i get this in return, what gives?
Code:

Interface          Chipset          Driver

wlan0          TI WL1251          wl12xx - [phy0]

Should not the driver change to wl1251 since wl12xx is stock?

Im currently running 2.6.28.10-power47 kernel with latest bleeding driver realese and seem to have problems getting injection to work properly.

I once noticed that too, but everything seemed to work anyway on the aircrack. You could try to do something what you couldn't to wíth the stock drivers also. Mentalist Traceur probably would know why its showing wl12xx as driver.

If you really are using the stock drivers this should output something:
Code:

cat /proc/modules|grep wl12xx

AgogData 2011-06-21 14:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Is the applet consuming more battery now or something elso does ? caues after the last update the battery is drained out completely in 7 hours ideal ! and its the only thing new to my phone + cutetube-qml theme.

laasonen 2011-06-21 16:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 1034855)
Is the applet consuming more battery now or something elso does ? caues after the last update the battery is drained out completely in 7 hours ideal ! and its the only thing new to my phone + cutetube-qml theme.

I can't see any difference on my battery on logs. My battery is now at 36% and I loaded it 22 hours ago to ~90%. Pretty normal for phone with default voltages, over year old battery, no smartreflex and 50% overclocks :D

mr_pingu 2011-06-21 18:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Using monitor mode consumes a lot of power ;)

Estel 2011-06-22 01:19

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
I think I've got an idea for nice feature, that may be implemented for future releases, even as huge update for its own.

As many of Us probably know, using iw package (which now don't return conflicting dependency with aircrack-ng, thanks to Mentalist Traceur) one can easily change regulatory domain:

iw reg set JP

...to Japan, which is most free of restriction domain available. US domain got upper channels (11, 12, 13) disabled, and EU got frequency limit only up to 2482000 Khz, instead of max 2494000.

Ho ever, this change isn't permanent, and even adding this line to startup script in event.d doesn't preserve from switching back to standard regulatory domain (depends on country where Your N900 originated to being sold on), cause with every Wifi off/on, domain switch back to default.

So, here is ideal place for our bellowed applet - making it optional OR strictly depending on iw, simple line of code could be added, + config option like with path to drivers - here we would just set what domain we want to set up.

Or even BETTER idea - just config option to simply (without much hassle with code, again as with defining path to bleeding edge drivers) execute ANY command after 1 second of wait, when wifi is successfully turned on (or even better, possibility to add same thing when wifi is turned out too ;) ).

That would made great possibility for anyone to add whatever she/he want - from simple one line command as with iw example, to full-blown sophisticated script. And it wouldn't need any additional dependencies, cause it's up to user what she/he want to execute after wifi on/off (if want to execute anything). So naturally, it's suer job to put lines only depending on packages already installed.

After short personal brainstorm, i think that easiest way - writing code wise - is a configurable path to script (sh) that will be executed after 1 seconds of wait time. So, just like with path to bleeding edge driver, we set path to our external script. If none defined, applet just terminate loading/unloading process as with current version.

What do you think about it?

// Edit

Personally i could not care more if this feature will be enabled by editing config file, or with nice GUI like with path to bleeding edge location (i know that even now i can alter scripts used by applet to achieve this functionality, but that's little different thing) , but of course more user-friendly way is to do so via GUI. Having in mind that laasonen already incorporated GUI for mentioned (countless times) in this post bleeding edge driver location, it shouldn't be much work to implement such a nice and expendable feature.

laasonen 2011-06-22 02:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
@Estel
In fact I was thinking about this sometime ago when I was playing with aircrack-ng :)

The customizable command solution sounds great. Maybe a combobox with couple popular commands like the "iw reg set JP" and textbox for own command.

I would need to make a settings applet for opening the setup dialog when user wants. The setting applet would also be needed for configuring, if the connection dialog opens when drivers get loaded. So there would be two things to configure from there.

I'll add this feature, if I end up making the settings applet.

Estel 2011-06-22 02:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Great to hear - can't wait for next release :)

Anyway, - im sure You already think about it - You're doing settings applet for 3 things (not two), yep? Or i missunderstood something?

1. Path to bleeding edge drivers

2. Open or not to open connection window when drivers loaded

3. Custom command.

That will be definitely huge update. Just to think that few days ago it was "just" applet to switch between drivers - nice whirlwind of development :) Thank You for that.

laasonen 2011-06-22 06:18

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1035540)
Great to hear - can't wait for next release :)

Anyway, - im sure You already think about it - You're doing settings applet for 3 things (not two), yep? Or i missunderstood something?

1. Path to bleeding edge drivers

2. Open or not to open connection window when drivers loaded

3. Custom command.

That will be definitely huge update. Just to think that few days ago it was "just" applet to switch between drivers - nice whirlwind of development :) Thank You for that.

I meant two extra things :)

pierrem 2011-06-22 09:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1033386)
Anyway, for lazy ones here is link to vote for package - we want to finally made it into testing, don't we? Voting is also important form of contribution, so pierrem and other, if You like it, please vote for this package (after testing).

Thanks for pointing the finger at my laziness ;)

unfortunately, though I can successfully log into my garage.maemo.org account, my attempts to log into maemo.org in order to vote for WDSA remain a total failure.
Does someone know how to solve this issue ?

Estel 2011-06-23 21:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Yea, it's real PITA and i got exact same issues when trying to vote for some package 1st time. Countless trying and total fail. Unfortunately i don't remember exactly what i did, but something reminds me that maemo.org package voting account may be unrelated to garage page voting (yea, very intuitive). Or at least logging process is different.

Try using Your e-mail as login. If that doesn't help, use Your logging with only lowercase characters. If that doesn't help, last resort is to create next account ;)

// Edit

After initial problems, now, when i remember exactly voting user password and account I never got any problems with voting. so, don't get discouraged, fix problems and You'll be able to vote without any issues anytime.

casketizer 2011-06-23 21:19

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
What exactly is the benefit you expect from switching to jp regulatory domain? Not that I'm against it....

laasonen 2011-06-23 21:32

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casketizer (Post 1037629)
What exactly is the benefit you expect from switching to jp regulatory domain? Not that I'm against it....

Estel answered to this couple posts back.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1035509)
...to Japan, which is most free of restriction domain available. US domain got upper channels (11, 12, 13) disabled, and EU got frequency limit only up to 2482000 Khz, instead of max 2494000.

There is also channel 14 in Japan, but it works only on 802.11b.

casketizer 2011-06-23 21:36

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
I can see it being useful in USA to get more channels, But what will those extra 10khz do for us europeons? :)

Estel 2011-06-23 22:55

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Theoretically channel 13 will work more effectively, because last 10khz aren't cut from it frequency hopping range. Probably, you wouldn't see any difference in real life situation, when you're not in area very crowded by wifi (and of course populated also on channels close to 13), but still, why to limit Yourself? ;)

Also, as laasonen already mentioned, forcing 802.11b, we can get channel 14. Shouldn't be possible on reg EU, cause even channel 13 is cut off upper 10kHz.

Nevertheless, my proposition was about giving possibility to run reg change command (or particularly, any command/script You may imagine) after wlan on/off, not about forcing everyone to use it ;) laasonen mentioned great idea about inserting also few quick buttons to most popular commands (like regulatory domain change), as addition to "path/to/Your_sh_script".

casketizer 2011-06-23 23:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Again, I was just curious, not against it. Where I live there is no wifi crowding whatsoever. Most chans are free...

pierrem 2011-06-24 08:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1037625)
Try using Your e-mail as login. If that doesn't help, use Your logging with only lowercase characters. If that doesn't help, last resort is to create next account ;)

I was aware of all this, but what happens here is even stranger:
I'm logged out from any service available on maemo.org, including garage.maemo.org.
I submit the login form asked after clicking on the voting interface
maemo.org replies that username or password is invalid.
I open "garage.maemo.org" and find out that I am logged in, but still considered logged out for the voting system

I don't have time to play with multiple accounts.

Estel 2011-06-24 13:58

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Sorry, no idea here ;) If Your vote will be last missing, I swear i will vote for You from illegal, second account >.<

vaporeso 2011-06-25 08:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
im having this problem and y cant get past it, when trying to load the drivers i get the following error:
Error while loading kernel modules
ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
Error while starting wlan0 interface
Drivers were not loaded
im on kernel power 46, and ive redownloaded the drivers with the applet just to be sure the drivers are not the problem, any idea? the stock drivers are working ok
thanks for this app, its really a great idea, ive stopped ussing this drivers some time ago due to the power consumption problem but if i get this to work it would be the perfect solution!

laasonen 2011-06-25 13:19

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporeso (Post 1038623)
im having this problem and y cant get past it, when trying to load the drivers i get the following error:
Error while loading kernel modules
ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
Error while starting wlan0 interface
Drivers were not loaded
im on kernel power 46, and ive redownloaded the drivers with the applet just to be sure the drivers are not the problem, any idea? the stock drivers are working ok
thanks for this app, its really a great idea, ive stopped ussing this drivers some time ago due to the power consumption problem but if i get this to work it would be the perfect solution!

Are you using the original kernel-power v46 or the lxp's modified one? It will only work with the lxp's modified v46 and the newest v47.

Saturn 2011-06-26 16:33

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Hi all,

Few pages back there was several people having problem connecting again to the network after unloading the drivers. Haven't read the complete thread and it might be the case that it has been corrected/found.

In the case it hasn't, the problem comes from the way the mac address is stored when in monitor mode.
i.e. 0C-2B-34-... instead of OC:2B:34...
therefore the unload.sh script fails to read the mac and put it back later.

The solution is easy.

In the unload.sh script, the line:
Code:

MACADDR="`ifconfig wlan0 | sed -n 's/.*HWaddr \([0-9A-Fa-f:]\+\).*/\1/p'`"
needs to replaced with:
Code:

MACADDR="`ifconfig wlan0 | grep wlan0 | awk -F"addr " '{print $2}' | awk -F"-" 'BEGIN {OFS = ":"}; {print $1,$2,$3,$4,$5,$6}'| awk -F" " '{print $1}'`"
Hope it is useful.

laasonen 2011-06-26 19:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
I think that I got the mac issue fixed a week ago. At least no-one hasn't complained about it and my mac isn't changing.

The project is currently on hold, because my n900's usb port got broken Thursday :( I'm going to return it tomorrow.

laasonen 2011-06-27 06:14

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Its now on Nokia Care. They said that it will take 2 weeks and if they can't fix it, they will give a N8 :mad: So I'll have to sell it and buy a N900, if don't manage to get the N950 before it :/

Estel 2011-06-27 09:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
:/ Definitelly not a good news, sorry for You laasonen.I really feel sorry for You, and i hope they'll be able to fix it.

Anyway, one guy in other thread said, that Nokia Care wasn't able to fix his N900, so they've given him refund - 500£. Be sure to check if You may have choose - usually it's better to get direct refund.

Also, if you encounter problems finding N900 in good c condition ondition for good price, I'll be glad to help You. Here in Poland You can buy one really cheap - I've bought mine in perfect condition (screen protector applied from 1st day, never overclocked or even kernel flashed - first owner wasn't geek at all), for 150$-180$. Of course i "hunted" for it, but normally You can buy one for 200$-220$ without problems.

laasonen 2011-06-27 11:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1039873)
:/ Definitelly not a good news, sorry for You laasonen.I really feel sorry for You, and i hope they'll be able to fix it.

Anyway, one guy in other thread said, that Nokia Care wasn't able to fix his N900, so they've given him refund - 500£. Be sure to check if You may have choose - usually it's better to get direct refund.

Also, if you encounter problems finding N900 in good c condition ondition for good price, I'll be glad to help You. Here in Poland You can buy one really cheap - I've bought mine in perfect condition (screen protector applied from 1st day, never overclocked or even kernel flashed - first owner wasn't geek at all), for 150$-180$. Of course i "hunted" for it, but normally You can buy one for 200$-220$ without problems.

500€ back sounds sweet. I'll have to ask, if I can get a refund, if they can't fix it.

I have seen n900s sold for less than 100€ in here Finland :D I'm tempted to buy another one while waiting for the old one, but I think I'll wait and see how it goes.

skricciolo1981 2011-06-28 17:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
error while loading kernel modules ifconfig:SIOCGIFFLAGS:no such device error while starting wlan0 interface drivers were not loaded....
i have kernel v46
what's about lxp's modified v46??
sorry my english

laasonen 2011-06-28 18:56

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skricciolo1981 (Post 1040953)
error while loading kernel modules ifconfig:SIOCGIFFLAGS:no such device error while starting wlan0 interface drivers were not loaded....
i have kernel v46
what's about lxp's modified v46??
sorry my english

Try installing the version from David's Blog (v46-wl1) or install the new v47 from extras-devel.

skricciolo1981 2011-06-29 06:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
kernel v46-wl1 took my boot, but I need because I Meego on SD ....
In fact if I go to install the applet because it gives me error because of uboot ...

stevomanu 2011-06-30 20:20

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
i have power kernel47 i selected the path were drivers are stored an it doesnt load the drivers any ideas what have i missed ...

also after clicking bleeding edge it comes up with the connection list of wifis why does it do that its not needed if we wunna use bleeding edge drivers enless im missing something ere ...

my drivers are stored here this is folder i selected

Code:

/home/user/MyDocs/wl1251-maemo/binary/compat-wireless

many thanks

laasonen 2011-06-30 22:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevomanu (Post 1042434)
i have power kernel47 i selected the path were drivers are stored an it doesnt load the drivers any ideas what have i missed ...

Its pretty hard for me to tell whats wrong, if you don't give me any error messages. What does it say when you try to load them? Does the lxp's load.sh script work for you?
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevomanu (Post 1042434)
also after clicking bleeding edge it comes up with the connection list of wifis why does it do that its not needed if we wunna use bleeding edge drivers enless im missing something ere ..

It was requested and I think its useful too.

stevomanu 2011-06-30 22:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by laasonen (Post 1042477)
Its pretty hard for me to tell whats wrong, if you don't give me any error messages. What does it say when you try to load them? Does the lxp's load.sh script work for you?

It was requested and I think its useful too.

all i was saying if i turn on bleeding edge drivers then i want to use faircrack i just dont understand why it popped up asking me to select connection when at that point its not needed but if it was requested then cool ....


As for my issues they all seem to have gone an its working no idea whats changed but all seems well ...

laasonen 2011-06-30 22:41

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevomanu (Post 1042485)
all i was saying if i turn on bleeding edge drivers then i want to use faircrack i just dont understand why it popped up asking me to select connection when at that point its not needed but if it was requested then cool ....

I was planning on making a settings applet for configuring this behavior, but then my N900 got broken. Look couple pages back.

stevomanu 2011-06-30 23:02

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by laasonen (Post 1042498)
I was planning on making a settings applet for configuring this behavior, but then my N900 got broken. Look couple pages back.

Its no major issue was just asking question , i did see you rpost about n900 thats a shame really is ....

that would be a great idea im sure it will be usefull many thanks for your work so far its a great applet an hopfully you can continue decelopment when/if you get your n900 back ...

laasonen 2011-07-14 08:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
I got a N950 from DDP and N8 from Nokia Care, so I'm putting this project on hold until nokia takes my precious N950 away. I'm more than happy to let someone else continue this project, if someone is interested.

Estel 2011-07-14 09:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
That's definitely a bad info :( despite the fact that, of course, I'm happy You get N950. Pity, cause i thought this could become better replacement for Advanced Interface Switcher. Unfortunately, my skills are too low ATM to maintain updates...

Anyway, of course, it's Your decision. Happy coding on Harmattan!

casketizer 2011-07-17 10:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Yeah.....I knew this would happen. All the good developers get a N950 and drop N900 like a hot potato. Now we mere users can live with dually orphaned N900 or buy crap N9.

Screw this. Fack Nokia. :(

edit:
@laasonen
Sorry this rant happened in your thread. It's not targeted at you but at Nokia.

Estel 2011-07-17 18:55

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
Fortunately, we have more than 250 talented developers, and I can name right now few especially talented, that did NOT received N900, due Nokia decided to scratch their applications... ;)

BTW, sooner or later, Cordia stable will happen, and we'll all switch to OS real meego with Hildon UI. So two worlds will meet even closer, than they are now ;) If not, N9 won't live long (cause it sucks) and only 250 N950's can't really run "ecosystem", so neophytes won't have a choice but getting back to N900 0_o (or stop coding @ all and go to android ;) ). Seriously, i would prefer first option with Cordia.

---

Still, i understand and even agree with felling of being "betrayed" a little (I didn't wanted to write this, but if You already did...). We've put much effort in testing/debugging/feedbacking certain apps, and then, sudden of nothing, developers just tell us "goodbye, I got N950 and I'm going to have undefined intimate time with it". It's really pity that I don't have enough coding skill (even near) to continue this (at least, maybe we can make Advanced Interface Switcher less buggy by our feedback/debugging).

Still, of course everything done here is voluntary, in developers free time (... - cut some blabla here), so they Can do with their time whatever their wish, and we can't and *shouldn't* feel betrayed, cause it's unfair for developers. Still, I *do* feel a little like that ;)

Laasonen, I really didn't wanted to embarrass You with this post (if I did, it wasn't on purpose) - it was VERY nice to work with such a supportive and "listening" developer. So I hope not offense taken - what i posted here was rather "sociological" observation of feelings (including my own ones), than actual cussing or whatsnot.

Saturn 2011-07-17 21:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wlan Driver Selector Applet - Switch easily between stock and bleeding edge drivers and shut down WLAN complitely [0.2.2]
 
The guy said he doesn't have an N900 (his old one broke and he was given an N8), therefore he cannot continue development..right?


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