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Morpog 2012-02-26 12:51

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Have you seen that Romaxa already committed patches for QT5?

h t t p : / / hg.mozilla.org/users/romaxa_gmail.com/rmxmq

Sorry for the broken URL, but my posts never get approved by moderators.....

Could that mean that:

- Harmattan is getting QT5 soon?
- Meltemi comes with QT5?

:eek:

automagic68 2012-02-26 19:44

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
So once flash is released for N9, will Romaxa's Beta, Aurora, and Nightly(Central) builds have flash included in them? Right now I'm using the most recent Aurora, I hope I won't have to revert to the previous version to get flash.

m4r0v3r 2012-02-28 01:40

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1169627)
YouTube video playback in Firefox on my N950 http://youtu.be/wix6oz5-iAg

much appreciated. the performance doesn't seem out of this world, hell the N900 even plays youtube flash smoother but I doubt that's the finished product, and am guessing flash on fennec will probably give mozilla a wakeup call that people actually use there browser and they should do some work on it.

aironeous 2012-02-28 16:49

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I'm bumping this thread because it's so so so important.

jolo 2012-02-28 17:10

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Just a small update from me, I am now not working on this - but we did get Firefox out to the store and Flash 10.1 should come out soon. As I am not involved in it actively, I cannot say what happens next, but there are people working on it and trying to get improvements.

AndyNokia232 2012-02-28 17:13

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolo (Post 1171401)
Just a small update from me, I am now not working on this - but we did get Firefox out to the store and Flash 10.1 should come out soon. As I am not involved in it actively, I cannot say what happens next, but there are people working on it and trying to get improvements.

Sorry for sounding like a pest, but when you say Flash should be 'soon', is that like, days, or are we talking maybe June/July?

Thanks :)

Pirvokkula 2012-02-28 22:18

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Why is everyone so eager to have Flash on this already slow and sluggish browser?

I couldn't care less about it right now. I've browsed the Web without Flash content for months and cannot see the real use of it. Everything, well, at least almost everything, works without Flash anyway nowadays.

jalyst 2012-02-28 22:30

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I've spoken to Oleg, there will be future builds in the Store that use FP10.1.
This is Fennec 10.02, there are the nightly, aurora, & beta builds still coming through.
Still getting clarification on what the plans are for the Gecko + Qt/SwipeUX builds.*
And whether they will also be eligible for FP10.1, doubtful....

*i.e. truly native & better suited the UX, probably more snappy too.

latency 2012-02-28 22:40

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirvokkula (Post 1171618)
Why is everyone so eager to have Flash on this already slow and sluggish browser?

I couldn't care less about it right now. I've browsed the Web without Flash content for months and cannot see the real use of it. Everything, well, at least almost everything, works without Flash anyway nowadays.

Good for you...and I browse the web daily with my N9 and the lack of flash makes the online experience limited almost instantly...videos won't play, audio won't play...there's so many flash elements out there (even on major sites). HTML5 is great and expanding, but flash is still very common and will be for a pretty long time.

latency 2012-02-28 22:42

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1171630)
I've spoken to Oleg, there will be future builds in the Store that use FP10.1.
This is Fennec 10.02, there are the nightly, aurora, & beta builds still coming through.
Still getting clarification on what the plans are for the Gecko + Qt/SwipeUX builds.*
And whether they will also be eligible for FP10.1, doubtful....

*i.e. truly native & better suited the UX, probably more snappy too.

Great, did he mention any timeframe? Days, weeks, months...ye...erhmm?

aironeous 2012-02-29 01:22

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirvokkula (Post 1171618)
Why is everyone so eager to have Flash on this already slow and sluggish browser?

1) There is still work being done on it so it is going to be updated just like the other apps. Don't you think it might get a little faster in the future?
2) There is a lot of websites that still use flash

Quote:

I couldn't care less about it right now. I've browsed the Web without Flash content for months and cannot see the real use of it. Everything, well, at least almost everything, works without Flash anyway nowadays.
This is the biggest lie I've ever heard and I'm getting sick of hearing it from the 5% here.

CNN VIDEOS, Yahoo news article videos, Hulu.com, radio station websites with streams, bbcnews videos, youtube videos that are in flash not html5, videos on tech blogs like engadget or slashgear, thedailyshow.com, colbertnation.com, bleachget.com THERE ARE SO MANY WEBSITES THAT USE FLASH NOT HAVING IT IS A SERIOUS HANDICAP.

Ok I'll just show you how incorrect I think this statement is I'll just do any random search and one of those top results will involve a flash video.

Uhmm ok lets see "Octopus eyes"

4th result
http://www.ebiomedia.com/what-animal...or-insect.html

Click stock footage
http://www.ebiomedia.com/catalog/vmchk.html

Choose eye of the cyclops
http://www.ebiomedia.com/Eye-of-the-...-products.html

Choose Plankton Play
http://www.ebiomedia.com/Eye-of-the-...video.tpl.html

FLASH

I can do this all day. Any random search will result in websites using flash and I'm getting sick of running into a wall all the time feeling like I'm hitting my head against the wall.
I have no idea what world you guys are living in that think we don't need flash you must be just pretending to yourself because I know you are using search too and running into flash videos that won't play all the time.

chrisp7 2012-02-29 12:49

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirvokkula (Post 1171618)
Why is everyone so eager to have Flash on this already slow and sluggish browser?

I couldn't care less about it right now. I've browsed the Web without Flash content for months and cannot see the real use of it. Everything, well, at least almost everything, works without Flash anyway nowadays.

Just why are you posting in this thread?

Pirvokkula 2012-02-29 21:38

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Heh.

I know the browser will get updates. I hope it will get as smooth as the native one because then I will use it.

I've been a FF user for so many years I cannot even remember and want also use Fennec with all the good features it has. But at the moment it's not possible for me.

I'm following the work in progress and hope the best for the future. Of course it will have updates, I know that. Everyone knows that. But for now, no, it cannot be my daily browser.

Flash? Don't you guys use computers anymore? It seems that you're doing a lot more than I with your handheld devices. Then Flash will be good for you even though I won't still need it.

Come on, see my point and get over your anger. It's absolutely rubbish to give Fennec a 5-star review right now. But I really do hope that I will be able to do it in the future.

:)

cevenn 2012-02-29 21:48

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cevenn (Post 1169731)
It's laggy, but usefull with Phony add-on, to change user agent...

That's allow to watch operator TV with 3g...

Dead1nside 2012-02-29 23:09

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Having Flash and Fennec come to the N9 is great and unexpected. I do hope some further updates and improvements come for both (in the case of Flash, I don't feel that's as likely).

Mozilla worries me a bit. I understand they have limited resources, but I've been watching their Fennec project from when before it was even called that, or had major support (just Doug Turner, I believe). Focussing purely on Android is perhaps a reasonable use of their limited resources, but I do think they should still try and improve Fennec as it can run on many open Linux-based devices.

latency 2012-03-02 22:41

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Hmm I was really hoping flash would show up this week, but it seems we have to wait longer. :(

marxian 2012-03-02 23:22

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by latency (Post 1173347)
Hmm I was really hoping flash would show up this week, but it seems we have to wait longer. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNf9rEPoc8Q

Only 14 hours to save the internet, else all N9s will die. :eek:

slarti 2012-03-02 23:55

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Flashhh! He'll save everyone of us!

Yeshua 2012-03-03 16:22

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I opened Fx/Fennec and went to

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer

I then got this:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1...0303165852.png

I clicked on 'Select version to download' and then got this:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7...0303165931.png

Is this it? Which one to choose?

m4r0v3r 2012-03-03 16:36

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
lol its none of them unfortunatley, you have to wait for the release.

Arie 2012-03-03 16:47

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
None of them, we need the .deb

latency 2012-03-06 09:14

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Did we ever get an answer to if the up and coming flash version for Fennec will support hardware acceleration?

I'm trying to wait patiently for it, but I'm going nuts soon...where is it? Stuck in the Nokia Store waiting for approval for ever? :)

olympus 2012-03-06 09:36

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Don't know why it has to be published in the store, just give us the download link :/

myname24 2012-03-06 14:45

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
flash player is in the store noww :) downloading ...

latency 2012-03-06 14:57

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myname24 (Post 1175209)
flash player is in the store noww :) downloading ...

Crazy!! Flash here we come! :D

jalyst 2012-03-06 18:13

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by latency (Post 1175069)
Did we ever get an answer to if the up and coming flash version for Fennec will support hardware acceleration?

No it's not compiled w/hw acceleration, but decoding is accelerated.
Few others things I will clarify soon too...
Just need to have more of a chat w/Oleg when we both have time.

Yeshua 2012-03-06 19:02

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Houston, we've go Flash!

*wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*

http://users.telenet.be/lsz/gifs/banana.sml.gif

bsalem 2012-03-06 19:14

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Yes it,s true.
The version is Flash Player 4.0.0 work with firfox only.

you can download it from this link

http://www.mediafire.com/?bc1w4lgv6rxn18o

bsalem 2012-03-06 19:30

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
The flash player release work with firefox only
the link on mediafire
/?bc1w4lgv6rxn18o

ENNINE 2012-03-06 21:33

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Installed.
Not bad, it's a little bit laggy but...

catbus 2012-03-06 23:56

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I would say... Not too bad at all. It's working quite well if "user" don't interrupt it (by moving or resizing or whatever, all the time).

We need also some speed-bust to FF.

And btw, this flash-app did not eat battery too much.

matimilko 2012-03-07 06:15

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Yes, Flash is here but it doesn't work on F1 live timing... Why? Any idea?
Thanks,
Milko

catbus 2012-03-07 07:17

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
F1 live timing is Java not Flash...

ENNINE 2012-03-07 12:04

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Yeah, it's java.

I did unistall Fennec. It's so slow and so laggy.
Opera is much better.

latency 2012-03-07 12:08

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ENNINE (Post 1175845)
Yeah, it's java.

I did unistall Fennec. It's so slow and so laggy.
Opera is much better.

Fennec is laggy and Opera is lacky :)
I prefer Fennec now that it sports flash.

ENNINE 2012-03-07 12:45

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Are they planing any update for Fennec?

erendorn 2012-03-07 14:25

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ENNINE (Post 1175869)
Are they planing any update for Fennec?

you can use unofficial builds. They work with flash too.

mtaudy 2012-03-07 16:42

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Hi everybody. I downloaded the Flash.deb to my phone and tried to install, but I still recieve a message, that "Cant install. Unable to trace installation package dependencies". Tried to do it via Ovi, but the same. In my device is Firefox fennec 10. Any idea? Thanks

alephito 2012-03-07 19:24

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
You need PR1.2.

wolke 2012-03-07 19:35

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alephito (Post 1176086)
You need PR1.2.

i dont have pr 1.2 and im using the deb from the ovi store.


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