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TA-t3 2007-07-24 09:13

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 62338)
I have issue that I can not toggle the browser engine (Opera/MicroB). I had to edit the .browser file manually to get first the menu option to show up... and now the option is there but does nothing... I have to manually edit the .browser file to select between the browser engines. Anybody same issues?

After you switch the option you must stop all browser windows. The next one you start after that will be the other browser. (It's not that easy to see the immediate difference, but if you just start the browser (no bookmark start) then MicroB starts with a different, yellow start page)

Milhouse 2007-07-24 12:22

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 62478)
After you switch the option you must stop all browser windows. The next one you start after that will be the other browser. (It's not that easy to see the immediate difference, but if you just start the browser (no bookmark start) then MicroB starts with a different, yellow start page)

And if you've replaced the default start page, "about:config" should only be supported by the MicroB browser.

Mara 2007-07-24 13:01

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 62478)
After you switch the option you must stop all browser windows. The next one you start after that will be the other browser. (It's not that easy to see the immediate difference, but if you just start the browser (no bookmark start) then MicroB starts with a different, yellow start page)

I have done that: Closed the browser(s) after changing the setting. Still next time I start the Browser still the old setting is seen in the "Set Engine" tab. If I do that change in the .browser file directly then it does change the browser engine.

To test I use just www.cvs.com web site: It shows correctly with MicroB but with Opera they forward to another page telling that my browser is not supported... When I try to toggle that "Set Engine" switch, close the browser and then reopen it, the browser engine has not changed. Only the direct edit to .browser file will do...

TA-t3 2007-07-24 13:54

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Close all browser windows. Open an empty window. Check if it's opera or microb (you see thatfrom the default page, unless you've changed it). Select other engine. Close browser, start again. Unless you have changed the owner of .browser to root or something this should show the other browser engine is executing.

Frankowitz 2007-07-24 14:40

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
There is another quick way to see which browser you are currently using:
The progressbar of microb goes faster from left to right than it's Opera counterpart.

Mara 2007-07-24 16:46

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 62536)
Close all browser windows. Open an empty window. Check if it's opera or microb (you see thatfrom the default page, unless you've changed it). Select other engine. Close browser, start again. Unless you have changed the owner of .browser to root or something this should show the other browser engine is executing.

OK... I think it is actually working now. For some reason the tab under "Set Engine" always show "MicroB" highlighted, even if the actual engine is Opera. This tricked my completely... :o

I guess this is how it works for you guys too?

PAC 2007-07-24 18:58

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Is there something I need to do to enable the set engine tab? I dont have it on my web tab after doing the install. I'm stuck in the Mozilla engine (which seems very sluggish to me)
Thanks

Milhouse 2007-07-24 19:22

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PAC (Post 62624)
Is there something I need to do to enable the set engine tab? I dont have it on my web tab after doing the install. I'm stuck in the Mozilla engine (which seems very sluggish to me)
Thanks

I suppose you could read this thread, it's only mentioned two or three times.

PAC 2007-07-24 20:50

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Milhouse - Thanks - my bad - i paged through the first and last few pages of posts but didnt see it - after your suggestion i went back through every page and did.

icerabbit 2007-07-25 02:32

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
The custom google maps created with mapbuilder do not work.
Neither do maps at maps.google.com

icerabbit 2007-07-25 02:45

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Even though there's no toolbars nor status bar (like in firefox) I'm hoping for some add-ons like add blocking :)

icerabbit 2007-07-25 03:13

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Not compatible with finetune.com stations?

Was able to play a song via artist search, but nothing happens when you try one of the online radio stations.

myrjola 2007-07-25 08:04

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icerabbit (Post 62743)
Not compatible with finetune.com stations?

Was able to play a song via artist search, but nothing happens when you try one of the online radio stations.

Seems to be working for me, tried couple of different stations and artist search.
Thx for the link btw, didn't know about finetune.com before.

--
my

icerabbit 2007-07-25 12:34

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
You're welcome. Only learned about it a short while ago myself.

Really strange.

I wish it would work for me as well, but I can't get it to play in either MicroB or Opera mode. When I click through on a station [play] on the right side of the screen ... it doesn't become active in the top left corner of the screen. Instead it refreshes the right column, jumping to the top of the stations windows.

And ... again, clicking on the artists listed on the let works? So it is not a codec issue.

maxilogan 2007-07-26 07:58

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
My 2€c after having played with it for a while.

First of all: works far better than opera when posting with blogger. Yesterday I posted something and finally being able to select the font type, and the whole functions of the blogger interface.

Still a bit slow, sometimes unresponsive until it has finished the page loading, but very fast when going back to previous (cached) page.
Also noticed that it has the same behaviour like the desktop version, so that if you press the backspace key it sometimes goes back to previous page. Very annoying when you are writing something ("Are you sure you want to go back and lose all your modifications?"). Doesn't appear to always do it, sometimes the text window is in focus, you press bksp and it works but then it loses the focus and the page goes back.

basco 2007-07-26 11:59

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I installed it last night and it was my first app since getting it yesterday. I am not as picky as far a as what a browser can do. I wanted it for internet banking and it worked. I had a treo for two years and could not do it. Great machine. :D

curiousj 2007-07-27 03:08

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by disq (Post 60692)
Tip: To enable the "default browsing switcher menu", to be able to switch to Opera, close all instances of the web browser, and edit /home/user/.browser and make "hidden=true"

That way you don't have to uninstall it if you need Opera.

Can someone setup by step this. I'm new to linux & the n800.

I have x terminal. Start there. :)

dtrask 2007-07-27 03:35

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curiousj (Post 63428)
Can someone setup by step this. I'm new to linux & the n800.

I have x terminal. Start there. :)

Easy...

First using Application Manager...install leafpad

then in xterminal type

leafpad /home/user/.browser

from there on in it's just like using a word processor.

curiousj 2007-07-27 05:49

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrask (Post 63437)
Easy...

First using Application Manager...install leafpad

then in xterminal type

leafpad /home/user/.browser

from there on in it's just like using a word processor.

Perfect. :)

Its already set to =true.

Now I have the engine choice but when I select Opera, close the browser, and reopen it MicroB is still selected. Anyone having the same problem?

And another possible quirk that i noticed is the browser wouldn't obey my disabled Open Thumb pad with Rocker option. I would click up and down the page element and it would open the small keyboard when it ran into a textbox. I use the past tense because it doesn't do it anymore. :confused:

Jupex 2007-07-27 08:35

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Dunno If this bug has been files or not, but here goes:

I surf to www.internettablettalk.com and see topics on front page. I pick something like "what's the next gen tablet like" I can read it just fine untill I see a picture embedded in the post. Just like that mozilla crashes.

icerabbit 2007-07-27 13:08

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Try to bookmark money.cnn.com and the whole unit crashes. Nothing responded. No tap response. No button response. Have hard reset and tried it three times.

Is there some ctrl+alt+del to close the app that hangs?

icerabbit 2007-07-27 13:25

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Tried it again. No go. I figured I would bypass the bookmark saving issue, by saving another site, then edit that bookmark. Which works. Only the browser crashed viewing the page. It chokes loading some things 56/63. Can't stop it (x) doesn't work. And will crash.

So maybe the bookmarking issue is related to the browser compatibility?? Where I view the page and try to bookmark it ... but in the mean time it crashes on the page.

glory 2007-07-29 04:11

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I have a quick question. Does the new browser (because it has the Flash 9 pulgin) support flash streaming videos efficiently?

Milhouse 2007-07-29 06:52

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glory (Post 63861)
I have a quick question. Does the new browser (because it has the Flash 9 pulgin) support flash streaming videos efficiently?

It's a plugin, so the performance with the new Mozilla-based browser is pretty much identical to that with Opera.

ph1asco 2007-08-07 16:40

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
i'm trying to install the browser but it needs microb-engine (>=1.0.3-12)

i however have microb-engine v1.0.3-5..

how do i upgrade this lib?

gLobster 2007-08-07 16:44

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I think that need to waite same time

zerojay 2007-08-07 18:30

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ph1asco (Post 66241)
i'm trying to install the browser but it needs microb-engine (>=1.0.3-12)

i however have microb-engine v1.0.3-5..

how do i upgrade this lib?

Sounds like an update is coming soon.

ph1asco 2007-08-07 18:38

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66284)
Sounds like an update is coming soon.

ah.. how have people been able to install it then?

zerojay 2007-08-07 18:41

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ph1asco (Post 66287)
ah.. how have people been able to install it then?

Click on the install link.. it should work fine. Perhaps it was edited for the update and reverted quickly.

In any case, timeless was saying that they're going to try pushing a revision of microb this week. What you saw combined with what looks like a How to Upgrade section that I don't remember seeing before and we should be seeing an update shortly. :D

heavyt 2007-08-07 19:21

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 66290)
Click on the install link.. it should work fine. Perhaps it was edited for the update and reverted quickly.

In any case, timeless was saying that they're going to try pushing a revision of microb this week. What you saw combined with what looks like a How to Upgrade section that I don't remember seeing before and we should be seeing an update shortly. :D

Clicking on that install link gave me the same error this morning. I hope your assumption is right.

iball 2007-08-08 00:18

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Odd. I find the "microb-browser" update in app manager but it's telling me:
"Update available but not installable"

Problems tab shows the following app packages missing:
microb-engine (>=1.0.3-12)
libpcap0.8 (>=0.9.3-1)
ncurses-base

I go into red pill mode and get the same thing.
WTF?

zerojay 2007-08-08 02:01

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Like I said, the update isn't ready yet but soon. I don't see the update you see, apparently.

iball 2007-08-08 02:35

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
I'm curious why a web browser engine needs libpcap?

TA-t3 2007-08-08 09:46

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Update seems to be ready (complete) now.

Milhouse 2007-08-08 10:01

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Did the upgrade, seems OK so far. Not noticed any new problems or fixes yet (couple of minutes testing).

Rocketman 2007-08-08 10:03

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Updated and it is still exhibiting the same buggy keyboard behavior and crashing to desktop when trying to instantiate a lot of flash objects. Trying to browse with Flash enabled is like play Russian Roulette with very few bullets missing.

zerojay 2007-08-08 10:08

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman (Post 66500)
Updated and it is still exhibiting the same buggy keyboard behavior and crashing to desktop when trying to instantiate a lot of flash objects. Trying to browse with Flash enabled is like play Russian Roulette with very few bullets missing.

I'm going to cobble together a basic changelog in a little while. Backspace while typing in a text entry field no longer makes the browser go back a page.

Never seen a problem with flash.

Rocketman 2007-08-08 10:14

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Try going to escapepod.org with flash enabled and then scrolling down the page once loaded so that a flash object scrolls onto the screen. Browser instantly disappears, leaving only a "Internal error. Application 'Web' closed." error. That site exhibits that behavious 100% of the time with flash enabled and 0% when disabled.

zerojay 2007-08-08 11:37

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Yeah, you're right. I was able to reproduce the problem. Have you filed a bug about it yet?

zerojay 2007-08-08 11:55

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iball (Post 66425)
I'm curious why a web browser engine needs libpcap?

It doesn't. It just so happens that an update for libpcap was pushed.


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