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Oh it could be beaten if everybody else would stop shooting their feet for a moment (HP, Intel and especially Nokia: I'm looking at you). It's not very hard to do want a better $NOTIPHONE (Android set the bar quite low) and people do want that but it's just not available on modern hardware.

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Possible, yes, but why would they want to do that? It's not like they lack in-house Linux kernel expertise, being one of the top corporate contributors for a long time.

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I find it seriously scary how Amazon is getting things more right than most other companies out there competing right now.

They've beat Apple to the cloud for cheaper and they've created a cheaper and different device with their Fire tablet. All movies, music and media purchased through their services are stored in the cloud. For free.

Their presales show how well they've hit the market.

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Amazon has a secret weapon. How many of its competitors can also sell you a refrigerator? Not iTunes, I think. Amazon has more than 60 kinds for sale, I just checked. Fire will make it much easier to shop for refrigerators and other items.

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This little device is effectively a SHOPPING MALL in a tablet... even the theaters! :) ...and they didn't exclude the rest of the Android devices they don't make because you can still do all of that on far more expensive devices too. But this will ABSOLUTELY kindle interest in the people who didn't want to spend $400+ for good quality tablets.

Mind you, all of this I can already do on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7-inch Tablet with Amazon MP3, Amazon.com, Amazon App Store applications as well as interactions over the web but this opens up their entire online mall with a $200 price-point device which will EASILY make them far more accessible to the rest of the people that didn't want to spend a lot.

ACCESSIBILITY, BABY! :)

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GPS coordinates would be good to get inside GPG-signatures optionally. Extra bits of security information which could get handy on some occasions. In the plain old paper world we often also tell where we are when we are signing papers.


Ubuntu and Debian has bad reasons to keep their stubbornness and legacy tools. Deb-format and weak practical security policy around it compromises whole Linux-ecosystem.

So I hope Meltemi will get rpm-package-format and at least that way would be compatible with Tizen.

It is not hard for a deb-user to learn rpm:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Package_managers

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"Nokia developing Linux based entry-level smartphones, says sources"
the sources are "Taiwan-based handset makers" apparently.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111028PD207.html

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Also, Amazon can sell their device below cost with the aim of recouping on secondary sales via their services. This is the same as MS and Sony have been doing on the games console market for years.

HP, Samsung and the others need to make a buck on the hardware sales, Google could not care either way as their primary revenue source is advertisement, MS is all about license fees, and Nokia, like HP, have picked up a bad case of shareholder meddling.

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Well, Ubuntu is comming up with a smartphone release either, and it might be ready even before Tizen is.
Since N9 MeeGo ist actually Maemo 6 and still uses deb-packaging (as does Ubuntu), staying with deb would probably be the better idea especially since Tizen apps would rely on html5 rather than beeing full featured Linux applications and would therefore rather not need a full Linux packaging and dependency resolution anyways.
Even if they WOULD be packaged in rpm they could still be easily installed on Debian/Maemo/Ubuntu systems using alien.

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Leak after the Feb11's hole opened was enormous. Of course, it didn't dry out Nokia's Linux talent completely but made it so scarce that it is now less different from others in this respect. Intel gained many of those talented people, as well as other companies benefited too. Specifically, kernel developers flew out *a lot*. Perhaps, Nokia is lucky that their v4l2 contributors are still on board, but their kernel generalists are happy to work at other places, continuing to contribute to the upstream.

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Gigaom has a very recent interview with Stephen Elop where he mentions the Swipe and Qt platform, says "watch this space" sort of. :) He seems really confident about that too.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/gigaom-inte...-stephen-elop/
N9/swipe/qt talk after 8 minute mark. Some tablet talk later too.

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Every time he says Windows 8 he shows that he considers it as an superior mobile OS, better than meego. He considers meego an OS for poor customers, for underdevelopement countries.
He loves Microsoft, so it is impossible to see the truth

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what is wrong with an OS you can install into really cheap mobile phones? if everything goes towards mobile internet with the next billion, those "poor customers" will outnumber superior mobile OS'es 10:1...

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Can anyone transcribe the relevant bits so I don't have to watch/listen to this annoying man?

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I'm afraid he will deliver it only in cheap hardware and try to keep good camera, good display and a lot of storage Windows Phone exclusive.

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Article is too long. Anybody quote few major points here?

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Money talks.

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Kauppalehti has some speculation (in Finnish):

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As I said some time earlier already... Maybe we shouldn't see the N9 as last MeeGo phone, but as first phone for the next billion ;-)

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the question behind is where those item would be sold ? probally under the sun ...

Anyway I cant wait those upcoming projects ... maemo and qt are fine , just wait a few months more ...

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.ph...meltemi&page=2

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what has those article makers smoked? now they think there will co
e linuxvased tablet they are definitie dreaming to much. nokia is hell too muchin bed with microsoft to make that happen...

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Sooooo, anything more solid yet?
Even Elop in recent interviews has been hinting at something, but it's more opaque than I don't know what.

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may 15 is next week isnt it ? is there anyone from .pk here ?

http://identi.ca/tag/meltemi

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Dont hope too much IF announced.

Elop will kill it 2 minutes after announcement.

btw:

http://mynokiablog.com/2012/05/11/le...and-nokia-305/

design looks like **** :(

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That event is primarily for S40 touch products...
They may present some more detailed info. about Meltemi (****ing finally).
But I doubt Meltemi products will be showcased.

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3.2 MP camera, I'm unable to see the Multitasking View... Oh well... :(

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Nothing related to Meltemi next week. Meltemi was originally scheduled for Q3 now dsmobile said Q4. Plan for Meltemi keeps on changing and I lose track of the status, the sw still has a long way to go before beta though.

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If there ever was Linux based "Meltemi", I am sure Microsoft and Elop have killed it already.

S40
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/05/13/bi...40-full-touch/

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is this NOKIA's First Meltemi Device...

OR JUST A SERIES-40 DEVICE AS DESCRIBED

http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/12...marena_002.jpg

its also gonna have kinda N9-Harmattan style UI

Sourcehttp://st.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/12...marena_003.jpg

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I logged in to linkedin and I saw this post by Sotiris. Don't know if he's referring to Meltemi:

http://i.imgur.com/IfYZi.jpg

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linux phones are so last season? Are they going to show us swipe on CE? Not interested.

except if there's a hidden reference to tablets

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Its a WP-thing w/ MS.
http://www.appcampus.fi/

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He said it's linux based

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its over...

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Maybe(yes this is a big maybe), since meltemi is linux.. but linux is smart:cool:, capable to multitask .. but their is some contract with MS that will prohibit Nokia from creating that(such) smartphones(more smart then WP)..

so meltemi might be a hidden weapon of NOKIA.. to sell it by default as restricted dumb OS.. but with hidden secrets that will unleash its capability after rooting... :)

just a big "MAYBE" :)

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If Meltemi would be based on Linux, which I doubt now even more than before; then wouldn't it mean "dumbphone" is a phone where 3rd party software is not allowed? Or what defines the "smart phone" in Nokia-Microsoft contract where Nokia is forbidden to make smart phones in any other OS than WP? I have thought the definition and smart phone is just that you can install 3rd party software to it.

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Nowadays it doenst exist a real difference. We could talk of high end devices and lower end devices.

A N9 is a smartphone now but will be a lower end phone in 2 years, and I think thats what meltemi will be.

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Who said?
In the screen capture he may be saying "linux is just so last season". And then they talk about appcampus being a cool place. The appcampus is all about WP-applications. A project to get more WP-applications to the WP-store so the MS ecosystem would grow. MS is investing millions to that program with Nokia. If you cannot win them, buy them.

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What matters is the definition of "smart phone" and "dumb phone" in the Nokia+MS contract. It can be a different separation than lower vs high end devices.