Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Now compare OpenOffice to iOS Numbers. If you still can't find a difference, you're not looking hard enough. And if after that you still see no difference, please press ctrl+Q.

To each his own.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

I can compare OpenOffice on a PC to OS X iWork and they will come out about even. But when comparing OpenOffice on a 3.5" display and a 1.15GHz single core processor, it fails compared to Numbers.

I have it OpenOffice running on my N900 right along side Numbers on my overclocked N900. This is almost as crazy as the claim that "iPhones can't view full webpages"

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You obviously don't get it.

I'll ignore the fact you've insulted many users of this forum.

A desktop app has, as a rule of thumb, MORE functionality than a mobile app. They do that so people like you are satisfied when using them on small screens and underpowered devices.

People like me prefer desktop app power over speed. It's quite simple, really.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

If your personally insulted because someone is being critical of the mobile device you are using then you have issues.

As I stated prior, OpenArena is a "desktop application" it was ported to the N900. It works. You are able to use the application. However the frame rate sucks, it kills the battery, it often crashes, it is near impossible to control due to form factor, etc.

So yes, OpenArena/Quake III in theory is a more entertaining/fun game than most "mobile games" - however it just doesn't work, not on the N900, not on an Android, not on a iPhone.

You're desperately trying to fit "full desktop applications" into a device with a 3.5" touch screen, a small keyboard, 1.15GHz (max) single core processor. Your "desktop application" that was so functional on a desktop just got a whole lot less functional.

Now you want to talk to me about "power" of these desktop applications, name something that a desktop application that is ported to Maemo/MeeGo that can't be done using a mobile application. Someone brought up Gnumetric and there's iWork's Numbers that is just as good, if not better. There's OpenOffice vs iWorks. They both do the same thing, iWorks has the edge because it was BUILT around a certain platform.

No one buys Angry Birds for PC, the reason why it sells so well on mobile applications is because it was built around a mobile platform.

And you guys want to go with CSSU is "improving" Maemo 5 - I've been there, I've seen it, It's not improving it - it's fixing the bugs and the features that the developers left out. You're sill miles behind the industry standard - no auto complete or spell check, voice commands, voice navigation, any navigation at all.

It seems you all keep on forgetting; I have my N900 sitting right here next to me, it's on. I have almost every worth while application loaded on here, you want to talk about OpenOffice? I have OpenOffice 3.2 booted up now, it even shows a cursor on the screen (because it was built to be used with a mouse). GIMP? Come on, that one is pretty useless (I don't think anyone is going to object to that), I gave it to a friend who only used GIMP and he couldn't use it for the life of him.

Name me one of these powerful desktop applications running on a mobile device that there isn't a mobile application out there for. That mobile application will not only be just as powerful, but it will be much faster, much more efficient, much more user friendly, and have a far superior interface. So my challenge stands: name me a desktop application ported to a mobile device that there isn't a mobile application equivalent of that doesn't have "power"

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

I thank you for supporting open-mindedness. However, you tend to be blunt, sometimes to the point of rudeness, in your 'pessimistic bias'.
Yes, MyPaint does not have a finger-optimized interface. It's awkward even with stylus: how do I exit fullscreen, after entering it accidentally? Yes, it lacks some functionality, such as selecting and dragging a part of painting.
And yet, I find it the best currently existing painting application - and that's including the desktop applications.
GIMP is too complicated, as if its primary functionality is editing photographs.
XPaint does not have good support of transparency and layers-overlays.
Microsoft Paint does not support partial transparency on principle.
MyPaint is so far the only painting program with pressure sensitivity, as far as I know, and it's a great advantage.
No, it doesn't do everything I want from it. No, I am not going to look for another device because of this reason: a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. If I am lucky, I will create an HTML cross-platform painting 'application'; and with devil's own luck, it will include support for pressure sensitivity. Hardware is not the problem here; combination of software, fingers and stylus is.
For now, as a distraction-inspiration, I am going to try liquid.
Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

What did you expect? We are the maemo community. We are by definition maemo users. We are here because we use our N900's and our N9's and we like them better than iPhones. If it wasn't like that we wouldn't be here.

To see from what this community is made of go to the "Should I buy a N9xx or an $phone?" threads. You'll find amazingly honest people there, to the point that almost half the posters tell people to buy $phone, despite their personal love for the N9xx.

But telling us that the phones we use, program for, and discuss in our free time are not the best for us wouldn't be met with enthusiasm that's a given. It's not that your phone defines you as you say, it's that in your statement lies the implication "You don't know what's good for you, I know better". Do I need to list all the devices I've been using as primary phones to my signature to not sound like a fanboy? You'll be surprised by what many of the users/contributors around here use.

Finally you can't blame everybody for not trying the iPhone and having a half baked idea of what it is, as long as it is a niche device which costs way more than it's specs justify (like all apple products). So everybody makes an educated guess as what is better for him/her without first spending 750€ and then some more for the "best apps for $activity" and for some people the investment doesn't seem worthy. Add to that cost the investment in time and knowledge some people have put on maemo and the switch is even more difficult.

Now I've got to go, I have a reservation at Dorsia ;-)

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Iphones were a joke even compared to the N95.

it's a disgrace putting the N900 and Iphone in the same sentence

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Besides the ridiculous pricing, my favorite thing about the iPhone is that it only costs a $100 _every_ year to have the privilege to develop for it. Simply awesome!

This is basically a Linux enthusiast site, stop waisting your breath trying to convince us of the benefits of a walled garden. Or are you just trying to convince yourself?

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

He isn't trying to convince anyone, he's staying objective.

Just for you I'll translate that wall of text, basically he's saying:
Smartphones arent smartphones anymore, they are superphones.

He's saying that yesteryear there was an advantage of having a full desktop PC in your pocket, but now the hardware has gone far enough for the software to catch up. Now mobile Apps are powerful enough to compete with desktop ones, surely there's a few compromises but its true nonetheless. And that comparing those powerful mobile Apps, the experience, to a desktop App that's squeezed into a mobile device as tiny as the 3.5" N900 is laughable.

I tend to agree, there is a shift occurring. Maybe not fast enough, but the iPad, NOTE, Transformer and WinRT are evolving computing. The PC has already shifted from large servers into big desktop boxes before, and then to a laptop and then to even smaller, lighter, thinner yet more powerful laptops. Now its going to get more personal, tablets do look like the new future. Call it the Post-PC or PC+ era, call it whatever you like, but phones like the iPhone 3GS, SGS2, N900 are beginning to become obsolete, despite how ridiculous that sounds.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Well, I didn't get it quite like you, Kangal.

He never said that desktops transformed into laptops, those into smaller form factors, and so on.

On the contrary, he says these devices are complementary, and I agree.

I have a powerful desktop, with two large monitors. I use desktop applications, IDEs. I would never give up my desktop machine for a smarphone, however smart it is - there's just not enough screen real estate, etc. to use those desktop apps. Even if I could, it would be inconvenient to say the least.
With a smartphone I want do quick stuff on the go, but not serious work, and for that I need apps that are optimized to small screens and touch input.
All these devices are not replacing each other, but complementing. That's why Google refers to tablets as "the third screen", desktop/laptop and smartphone being the first two.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

He's not being objective, he's cherry picking and rationalizing to convince himself that the way forward is iOS. iOS is a way backwards.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

one? how about metasploit, wireshark, testdisk/photorec, parted, aircrack-ng, midnight commander, mplayer...just some of the plethora of desktop apps that work great on n900 and are better than any app build with mobile phones as target

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Name me one of these powerful desktop applications running on a mobile device that there isn't a mobile application out there for.

Blender.


GIMP? Come on, that one is pretty useless (I don't think anyone is going to object to that), I gave it to a friend who only used GIMP and he couldn't use it for the life of him.

Gimp, yeah screen size is limiting but is doable if you organise your toolbox. The lack of ram can be a bit of a git when you want to render some heavy lighting and shading effects but then for any serious work who in their right mind would be pulling out mobile app? :)


As an anecdote to this, I was excited to hear that Adobe were to make a Photoshop app for iOS, being the bit of a wiz in both shoop & gimp that I am. And my word I could not have been anymore disappointed, they had made an app the was nothing more than a jumped up version of the Kodak Easyshare photo suite with less than half of the functionality of the PS essentials desktop variant.

Personally I think you have the best of both worlds xxxxts, you have a decent mobile device for your apps and the n900 for whatever else you choose to use It for. I bought the iPod touch 4g for my ios kicks too and it rocks!

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Depend on the user needs. My software needs (programming on device with full Python & C/C++, using scientific / mathematical softwares) are well served with N900 & N9, for example, while there are no equivalent softwares on iPhone.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Sorry to say that : you should think about your own words here. You are trying to define other users needs and preferences. You are trying to "say the truth about the best smartphone". It is nonsense.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Personally I had a lot of joy out of Gimp on the N900 for small things.
I used it a lot for modding .png's when I had Androud devices. I made new icons and modded lock sliders for widget locker. Very convinient for small jobs and easy to transfer through BT.
Even found it was easier to install fonts and make some plugins work on the N900 that I just couldn't get to work on my laptop.
Also made costum splash screens for android devices on the N900.
To me Gimp on the N900 was pretty cool to have because it was a desktop grade app that no mobile app could nor can match still for the above mentioned things.

Dousan...

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

That's exactly what I am saying. The only reason I am singling out iPhone 4S is because that is what I have in front of me and it also seems to be what the Maemo community is least informed about.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

iFile does everything midnight commander can do
metasploit can be had on the iPhone
Paros is comparable to wireshark on the iPhone.
photorec is on the iPhone
aircrack-ng is on the iPhone
and mplayer - really? The iPhone already has hundreds apps that handle media much more efficiently.

Do a Google search.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

This is the best argument I have heard, and it is a very valid one (depending on your definition of "full"). I don't know of another device that does allow the user to do this other than the N900 and presumably N9.

The problem is, I can't think of a scenario that this would ever be needed. If you were the most extreme coder in the world, that was your livelihood, you would be carrying around a bag with a full computer to work on and not tinkering with a device (while going blind).

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

"He never said that desktops transformed into laptops, those into smaller form factors, and so on." - I never did say that, I am using a desktop that has more cooling fans than I can count and 3 displays all with 1920x1200 resolution. However I am in the minority, I also own a Sony laptop, and I also own a Samsung UMPC Q1U.

The desktop is like your landline and the laptop is like your cell phone. A very good amount of people have ditched their landline because it is not needed anymore, the mobility of a cell phone is better. Hence development on landline phones came to a halt.

But still most laptops have a large display and a full keyboard you can easily type on.

So right NOW that is the reality, what about in 4 years? As we speak most peoples cell phone HSDPA speeds are faster than their home internet connections. Technology is advancing and evolving in ways that are pretty unpredictable and it seems that the Maemo community (a Linux community) refuses to acknowledge this.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You can stop with the arguments because the iPhone troll is right on that everything that can be done in software in the N9/00 _will_ eventually be able to be done on a iPhone. What the troll here does not realize is that it will NOT be able to be done EASILY.

On the N9 that I'm carrying on my left pocket I have installed some of the software that I use to help design one of the future microprocessors of certain "popular" chip maker company. (Obviously, I do not carry the real "input data" for the tool :) ).
Why am I doing this? Is it because it is useful? Not really; if anything, it is only useful to impress other people and at most keep myself entertained and doing some light work during the long tube commute.

I did it because I did not have to move a finger to build it for the N9. The tool built as-is, not a single line changed, and it run on the N9 without a single problem. Android? Forget about it. iOS? Even more. Just setting up an Xcode project would be already three times the effort I made to run it on the N9. It would not even run as-is on my beloved webOS.

But our iPhone troll here will never understand that.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Thanks for clarifying this. I'm also with you, as I develop apps I need all the screen real estate I can get for all those IDE windows, and I couldn't move to a laptop for development. I don't think there will be anything better in the near future for my use case.

That is the gist of the whole issue. That's part of the reason I keep coming back, because it puzzles me how these people think, and fight tooth & nail against anyone who seemingly 'belittles' their beloved n900.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Now, onto the flamewar...

You do not seem to realize that you are contradicting yourself. WE ARE the community that is trying to ditching the laptop and start using our mobile devices as replacements. We are doing REAL WORK on our mobile devices and thus we have HIGHER requirements from the operating system than the iOS boys, which are mostly happy with throwing birds from a slingshot onto pigs.

This is one of the reasons we CANNOT really even think about using the iPhone in a daily fashion.

YOU are the one who is refusing to acknowledge this. You will keep on depending on a computer, while we will eventually not as soon as the prices for "phone docks" get low enough.


More trolling by our friend here. Have you even done the Google search yourself? Comparing iFile to MC is LAUGHABLE, considering that people TO THIS DAY still consider Windows Explorer not comparable to MC.

And having aircrack-ng, etc. on the iPhone is quite useless because the iPhone does not support monitor mode which is virtually essential for this kind of tools. And the iPhone might never get monitor mode or USB host.

But as I said, you might be able to plug one Wi-Fi sniffer to the propietary peripheral port. But I am not going to consider that as a "solution" because you might as well say that you can plug a full PC to the iPhone.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You are contradicting yourself: "Mobile apps are powerful enough to compete with desktop ones" vs "comparing those powerful mobile Apps, the experience, to a desktop App that's squeezed into a mobile device as tiny as the 3.5" N900 is laughable".

But, in my opinion, what is happening is the opposite trend. Mobile software is actually getting worse. And the reason is that I used to pay $100 for desktop software, while nowadays people expect to pay $10 _at most_ for mobile software, so the quality suffers.
Now, this would not be a problem if mobile software were to follow the traditional UNIX rule "do one thing and do it well", and "connect with other programs". Unfortunately, that is not the case, and actually NOT connecting with other programs is encouraged by MOST mobile platforms (e.g. iOS "jail").

So the end result is that we get CRAP programs that cannot really exchange information with anyone else. Not even the clipboard really works well for anything other than bare unformatted text.

In fact, this situation has deteriorated so quickly that these days I have to look up whether new mobile device X will have TRIVIAL features such as the ability to leave POP3 mail on the server. (E.g. see windows phone 7, 8, and even its "desktop" counterpart in Windows 8).

Now of course there is one thing that all those CRAP applications do well: serve ads.

</rant>

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Actually this is similar to something I did a few weeks back. We have an in-house developed protocol tester that is used in R&D and CI verification that runs on linuxserver platform.

Just for the fun of it, and to impress my co-workers I built and ran it on the device, under easy debian.
You bet people were impressed :D
Granted it does not "quite" process as many frames/s as when running on big iron but it is usable as a demonstration device :cool:


Granted I had to modify one function though... the original code uses inlined access to the TSA counter in pentiun CPU to do really critical timestamping, so I had to #ifdef that to use clock_gettime() on non-intel platforms.
However, that modification is now part of the official trunk code so it stands, I can get the source right from svn to the device, build and run it there without any tweaks.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You know, you sound exactly as some of the teachers I used to have at elementary school, that would not allow me to sit squatted on my chair with the argument they could not imagine anyone wanting to sit like that and hence sent me out of the classroom.

And to give you just one example of why my n900 is a fine machine: For my work (TD of a telecom company), during a board meeting, we were discussing the production costs of personalized audio messages on telecom products. At some point, I pulled out my phone to demonstrate the possibility of converting audio files on the fly by utilizing ffmpeg to create asterisk files. Simply using my terminal it took me a couple of minutes to create a personalized asterisk message from an audio recording I had taken during the meeting. I saved my own job during that meeting and saved the company a lot of money.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Call recording?
We know the iPhone can perfectly track your whereabouts for commercial purposes.

But can it record your incoming and outgoing phone calls transparently in the background?

I am just asking the iPhone expert - maybe meanwhile it can replace the N-it'snotaphone-900 / Symbian for that purpose.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

I think javispedro is wrong in most of his assertions, I think mobile application quality is great, on EVERY platform; Maemo, WebOS, Android, iOS.

A great deal of people have ditched their laptop/netbook for a tablet. iPad/Android. That's a fact, you can look at the market, you can see what people are buying and not buying.

The iPad/Android tablets are being used by MANY as replacements and doing real work already. You're trying to make it happen when it is already being done. iOS on the iPhone vs iPad is pretty much the same, only thing that has changed is form factor. No one is going to deny it is harder doing things on a smaller form factor.

My iPhone is coming VERY close to replacing my Samsung Q1U UMPC.

http://www.umpcportal.com/products/S...20Ultra/Q1U-XP

Speed: Check
Battery life: Check
Word processing: Check
Web Browsing: Check
Multimedia: Check
Connectivity: Check
Image Editing: Eh...
Video Editing: Better than my UMPC, but still eh...
Programming: No
File sharing: Yes/No - DropBox/iCloud = Yes, no SD = no

You seem to be almost devote in your praising for this platform. You can argue all you want that MC is the best in the world and nothing comes close, but when it really comes down to it, I don't know what you're talking about.

There's so many things you can attach to an iPhone that give it such a wider range of abilities, from processing credit card transactions to a Geiger counter. And the platform your using hasn't even accomplished spellcheck yet (one of my long running criticisms of Maemo 5).

I'm not telling you the iPhone is a better phone, I am not even going to make the claim that it is better for most people. I am just here to inform, compare, and contrast.

As for the store by anthonie - that was a good example. And once the meeting was over it only took you 10 min to open Fennec, go to Facebook, and post a status update (without spell check) about how good a job you did on that one occurrence.:p (I'm just messin' with you!)

I never attempted to record calls on my iPhone but from my quick Google search it appears to be possible.

Something I have noticed is that the questions being asked are, "Can X be done in THIS fashion?"

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Now that I think about it - Apple had the problem that Nokia is having now. It used to be that not a lot of people made applications for Mac. They went as far as to create a PC emulator and then they switched over to Intel's x86/x64. Now it seems that every mobile application out there is first made for iOS, then Android, maybe Windows Mobile, and most likely not Nokia.

Third party applications are really what matters, the ONLY application I ever paid for on the N900 was Kasvopus - it worked really well. But compared to the gasp official Facebook client, not so much.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You seem to have completely missed the point of what I was trying to say. It's not about competition or what device is best for whom. All I care about is what I need, what I need to get done and how I can best achieve that.

If I want to operate my N900 whilst standing on both my hands in upside-down position, so be it. If I feel my needs are best served by using a full fledged desktop application on my phone, than so be it.

You on the other hand, seem to have a pretty biased view on how, when and under what circumstances device x or y is to be used. And that's why you sound just like these silly teachers that couldn't deal with a little kid that preferred to sit differently on a chair than others.

So my final question ought to be; Are you a member of the smartphone-police and if so, can I see your badge?

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

I told you I was just joking around with you - but if you want to get serious, if your a technical director of a telecommunications company, you code, and you are in a board meeting shouldn't you of had a laptop with you?

Your example was valid, I will give you that, but it is the kind of example where you have to say, "wait a second!" the same way you do when you ask a gun nut, "Why do you need so many AK-47s?" and then he shows you how to light a cigarette off of one and then he gives you many other reasons that are pretty implausible.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Why do you sometimes consider mobile devices "laptop replacements" yet on other posts you do not?

As I said, we _try to_ use our devices as replacements. Because we fully understand, the moment a reasonable docking scheme exists, the days of the workstation are over. When that happens you'll see how much of your work is "video editing & multimedia" and how much is "rest of stuff that your iPad can't even dream of doing".

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

I had a laptop with me, but being a tech nerd I wanted to make a point; One of the non-tech boardmembers was seriously advocating the purchase of software to achieve the creation of a specific kind of soundfiles.

A €.500,- device that fits in my pocket turned out to be able to do just the same thing as a commercial company was offering us as by means of a monthly paid service. I like to believe I made my point much stronger by using my phone, rather than my laptop.

So, what's your badge number?

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

That's a very valid question. Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. My N900 has traveled to the jungles of South America, Italy, Canada, and through the Rockie Mountains (no connectivity) in CO. It was not able to perform up to par. My UMPC Needed to come along.

Few reasons:

1) Lack of social networking capability - to arrange meetings and such I used Facebook (this was before a decent client was released) was not a pleasant experience on the N900. It was too expensive to make phone calls.

2) Lack of RJ45 jack - all the hotels I staid in throughout Italy primarily used RJ45 jacks.

3) Keeping updated with my friends in the states via Facebook - once again not possible.

4) Online banking, it needed to be done and doing it on the N900 over South America's WiFi was horrid.

I could go on.

For a 5 day trip in the states my iPhone servers me pretty well regardless of my WiFi situation. I am able to keep up with all my friends via every social media network there is (even the ones I don't use), keep up with news/current events (where as Maemo had just one AP News), handle my finances, shop around/navigate a foreign city using the many apps (Yelp, AroundMe, Waze, etc.) and Siri.

There's a phrase, "Where's the train?" when you look at someone who is rushing. Well many times I find myself in that situation only the train is not proverbial. I might be late for a meeting in a city I have never been to before, these are things that my N900 has failed on me before.

I would say it would be a replacement for a trip over seas but only with WiFi because data costs would be too expensive.

The things I would want to do, that requires a laptop/UMPC/dexktop would be to Photoshop some photos and review them before posting them on a larger screen before posting them, maybe fine tune videos before I upload them (I am just guessing because I don't have that much experience with video editing on the iPhone), there is no need to sync with iTunes since everything is synced with iCloud so I don't need/want to do that, maybe triple check documents I have written on Word on my PC just to make sure it came out alright since I am new to iWorks. But honestly, I think the most important thing would be to rest my eyes from staring at a 3.5" screen for so long and have that comfort of Windows 7 back with a full keyboard and mouse and my 67 tabs open.

To contrast: I couldn't upload my videos taken on my trips to YouTube or Facebook with my N900 on the go, I needed a computer to do that, I can't even remember posting photos to Facebook or not. I am also a horrible speller so spell check is a MUST for me (cannot live without).

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You just proved my point, you had your laptop with you - but you just wanted to show off what you could do with your mobile device. Cool. Could it have been done if an iPhone/Android was there instead of an N900? Yes. Could it have been done quicker on your laptop? Most likely. You just wanted to show off.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

"Name me one of these powerful desktop applications running on a mobile device that there isn't a mobile application out there for." quoteing you here, i didnt say those applications arent available on the iphone BUT THOSE ARE DESKTOP APPLICATIONS YOU JACKASS
and no, those alternatives you mention arent as good as ones i mentioned, even thou they are comparable(everything is comparable...)

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

You seriously need to go back to school and learn how to spell if you so happen to rely massively on a crappy spell check. That's the most pathetic criticism I've heard in ages.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

It has nothing to do with my education, some people are naturally bad spellers. I have trouble. Einstein did as well. It really has no relation to intelligence or education. On my PC I sometimes have to use Firefox spell check and Google to make sure I spelled a word correctly. On iOS 5.1.1 I use Siri when a word is that hard for me.

I mostly have trouble with non-Latin based words, mostly.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

Okay, first off no need for name calling

iFile = MC on iOS
Paros = wireshark on iOS.

I don't know much about WiFi cracking so research metasploit, photorec, and aircrack-ng. (all can be had on iOS)

iPhone default media player > mplayer on a mobile device. The iPhone was made due to the iPod.

I've also been around the Maemo community a VERY long time (I don't belong to any Apple/iPhone/iOS communities) to see the question asked so many times, "Is there anyway to get that on the N900?" That Android WiFi cracking program comes to mind.

Re: iPhone 4S (iOS 5.1.1): A look back at the N900
 

That's not what anthonie said. He said it was a demo for a board meeting about capabilities of mobile devices. How better to demonstrate said capabilities than by pulling a mobile device out of his pocket?