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Makeclick has been updating the first post mate, see the links there.

We have the OS & UI running on the n950 so far. Only news of hardware is that they expect to release a device before summer 13.

There is also the Jolla.com site up too :)

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DRM must DIE

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As far as I know, no hardware has been announced. If you were talking about what they were running on, I think they were Nokia N9s.

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Well, they haven't announced anything about the device(s) yet, though I'd say it's fairly clear which market they are going after based on the fluffy UI. I'm not expecting any devices with a HWKB, unless some OEM produces one, but I doubt that will happen. The market is moving squarely in the fondleslab direction atm, because that's where the dosh is.

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I thought that...

I can't get a sharp enough image when I zoom but from the placement of the SD card, the yellow AV port and the silver blocks in the opposing corner (hdmi/LAN/USB), I think it is too... Even pulled my pi out to compare.

Let's hope that we will get some fish-pi :)


Edit: Just spotted a HP touchpad there too, :)

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I am more interested in the the browser perrormance, store, camera, mail app, and all the essential things that we use on a phone.. So far, nothing seems interesting enough for me to get excited to buy a sailfish powered phone. On top of that the poor presentation made it unappealing!

Sorry for being harsh, but if they want to continue to become a well known company, they will need a lot more polishing than this.

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In the video on their main site, Check it out at 0:50!! theres an Android logo there!

Nice little clue that this is probably going to be getting Android app support :)

http://jolla.com/

Sorry if somebody already spotted that

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I can't buy a device:
1. when the presenters of the software seems so bored and uninspired that you almost fell a sleep. Where's the passion?(only marc seems inspired, he had some fire, the rest should probably be tied to there work stations :D)
2. no keyboard.

I hope both change to device announcment so I can change my mind.

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This was not their A-Day, in fact they have not showed us more than 3 homescreens and the basic UI paradigm on an old N950.

Disappointing, but understandable when the launch date is still 6 months away.

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Good to know. Good bye :)

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Luckly I can still run their OS :)

SailfishOs wiki

What do the Android app developers need to do get their apps run on Jolla devices / devices based on the Sailfish OS?
Many Android(TM) applications will run on Jolla devices unchanged (Android is a trademark of Google Inc.). If you want to take advantage of all UI and other features of Sailfish OS and make yourapplications fast, you can port your applications to native QT/QML. There are extensive guides available on how to do that.

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That's vague but could mean native support for Android apps similar to how BB PlayBook did it, only hopefully much more usable.

Then again, it could also mean that they hope Qt will be more used within Android allowing it to ease the transition between platforms using a single coding but releasing for multi platforms. App developers would go for this as it saves them money from programming three or four seperate apps.

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True, but Myriad was on the list of partners if you noticed.

http://www.myriadgroup.com/software/...%20dalvik.aspx

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You appear to have missed the part where most of the presenters were not speaking in their native tongue. So not only were nervous with stage fright but they had to contend with the English language too.

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Exactly and it's not like they were show presenters they were the developers and engineers. I think it went well they did seem to be proud of their work :)

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I haven't missed that. There are ways around that. Either way, now they have some more experience so they are more confident next time. Practice is the cure :D Add a keyboard to that and they will be unstoppable...


...Plus I think they deliver a Pro presentation tomorrow when it's time for the SDK...

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Have to agree with you there... Being devs, you would expect them to be more comfortable when it comes to talking about their toys. :)

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The interview with Jolla's CEO Marc Dillon and CIO Stefano Mosconi

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I think the same, the only thing I see relevant is myriad , if it had n9 , bye bye android and iphone , nothing can equal the UI meego harmattan , nokia really fuc*ked everything, is very sad

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It would be nice to have a poll.
which UI do we prefer. Harmattan or Sailfish?

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WHAT!? Isnt every country have english as native language :eek:

:rolleyes:

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It would be nice to have a poll.
which UI have you used........ Harmattan or Sailfish? :p

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I'd say Sailfish beacause Harmattan has remained unchaged since it was introduced last year..Still Sailfish doesn't do too much for me..
I would go for BB10..At the moment it is far better than Harmattan and Sailfish..

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I don't understand the meaning of this answer to this question:
which UI do we prefer Harmattan or Sailfish?= BB10!
Sorry to me i doesn't make sense.
Isn't BB10 a hardware to be compared to N9 or N950 etc or have I misunderstood something?

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I honestly can't say at this point yet. it really should be only judged when we see Jolla's own software running on their own hardware.
To me the core UI is close enough so it really comes to the speed of UI that i think Jolla will win.

Somebody who plays around with multiple smartphones a year (at the moment i have Lumia 800, N9, iPhone 4S, GS3) the N9 speed is just not enough for me anymore.
Honestly i don't think i probably can't use Jolla's phone as my only phone, just like i couldn't N9.

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based on what we've seen so far.
based on the "impact" each one had on us when we first saw it being demoed

*when I watched the N9 presentation back in June 2011, I was like "OMG OMG OMG!!!"

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I don't think people who say that this UI is nothing new or that Harmattan had it better realize how the usability of your device will change if you can interact with 3,4 or 5 applications at the same time on the same screen without additional touches/clicks/key-presses/whatever - even desktop operating systems don't have that solved properly, so IMO, if Jolla pulls this off, its definitely groundbreaking.

The only concern is if they make it fast, fluid and shiny enough to attract the masses.

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wooow maybe this the plan B that elop used to mention if WP couldnt help nokia :p ..

anyway they said that they will corporate with several partners, will nokia be on of those ?

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Well it looks as if Sailfish is an evolution of Harmattan. Not a direct offspring, but a more attractive cousin per say? I don't think we've seen enough to make a judgement. I'm very interested though. I've broken to N9's and am using this abortion of a Lumia until I get a new one. I was going to get the Note 2, but i may just wait until the first Jolla device next year sometime.

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If Nokia is wise, they must buy Jolla eventually (they can even keep the "Jolla" brandname)

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Quick reply...
Blackberry 10 is also an operating system.
Best wishes.

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Best thing about today - true multi-tasking and intuitive controls on still-running instances of apps. That's partly a dream come true for me.

The design, layout is a mix of things we know, but they seem to have gotten a lot of the usage patterns to be closer to what I'd appreciate. I've already wished Jolla and the developers that left Harmattan for Jolla the best of luck.

It seems that they didn't need it. I just need to find patience on getting my hands on this - either on my N9 or in a newer, more capable device.

Kudos. Jolla you've impressed me.

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Why.. Nokia is dead.. there is noting left anymore.. it's like this pic.... :(
http://unitedcats.files.wordpress.co...uins.jpg?w=700
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g_uZapSsgZ...00/chernob.jpg
Elop effect..

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Not exactly. More like:

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/...filiate.91.jpg

Or to be precise, already like this:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aEFShwOUr0Q/0.jpg

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Jolla if ya' hear me!

I really liked what I saw, especially since they still have plenty of time before release. My thoughts on the UI are shown are . . .

(1) Lockscreen is niiiiice. Minor note: I wonder why there seemed to be multiple instances of notification icon (two mail icons) instead of just one mail icon with a number "2" if there are, for instance, two mail messages. Small detail.

Pulley menu is okay, but I prefer the N9QuickTweak Coderus drop down menu that quickly comes down when you tap it and has all options at the ready--even with single hand use. The N9 approach appears faster and easier than the pull-down swipe on Sailfish seemed to be. Let's just hope that Jolla's implementation doesn't cause a 20 second delay in activating the music app function! (OT: Can ANYONE fix this delay???)

(2) Leaving the Lockscreen. I think that you should be able to swipe to one side of the lockscreen to directly access the notification aggregator (yep, I just went there. Please add it, Jolla) and also swipe to the other side to directly access the app tray, instead of having to cut through the multitasker/homescreen.

Once you do swipe down to the homescreen, I think that the homescreen should keep the app thumbnails the standard size and if there are more than 4 apps open, then you swipe left and right to see additional sets of regular sized thumbnails per page. Miniaturizing the thumbnails would make them difficult to use (think how small our miniaturized thumbnails are on the N9). My way would be a better solution, since you could get more than 4 thumbnails on each spillover page.

(3) Application tray is pretty standard. I agree the icons could use some work in the aesthetics department. I would also have the app tray expand left and right, not up and down like on the N9. This way, if you have many apps, the additional apps would be located by swiping left and right, so that the downward swipe shortcut back to the homescreen would always be immediately available, regardless of number of apps on the device.

(4) The ambiance feature's automatically changing the color/theme to match the selected photograph was a VERY nice touch. If they use that sort of thoughtfulness and style throughout Sailfish, then they are off to a very nice start.

(5) As is the case with BB10 (and I also like what I see from the RIM jobbers), I think that the total attractiveness of the platform will be largely determined by its ability to successfully incorporate Android applications. This is the only way to avoid app-gap, upsetting as that may be to some purists out there. If Sailfish really can run most Android apps as-is, then that would be huge.

(6) Given the "openess" of Sailfish and the availability of what they're making available to to public, what is the estimate on getting a version onto our lovely N9/N950's? Later this week? End of next week?

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I doubt Jolla will read any questions here. Add them to the community list, before it's filed to Jolla (it should happen on the coming Sunday):

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87764

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Let's add more homescreen!
Vertical: Lockscreen, Multitask, Apps
Horizontal: Notifications? Maybe desktops ;D

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BB10 is an OS..
I mentioned BB10 because Harmatan,Sailfish and BB10 are the only OS's that are heavily based on the swipe gestures and true multitasking..
By the way i hope we can get Sailfish to N9..:)

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We will most likely. Sami had an N9 onstage and seemed like he was using Sailfish :)