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Morpog 2013-06-02 21:38

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1349059)
Nope. After n900 and N9, I don't think they can code a viable and competitive device. It looks like a cool UI, but knowing that they had 3 years to get N9 ready and delivered a substandard user experience, why would they be better now. Burden of proof is on Jolla

Maybe because they don't have to restart the whole project every few months, because of managment changes or symbian influences inside Nokia?


@marxian
haha, good one :D

Lumiaman 2013-06-02 22:01

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
I guess we will have to wait and see. Lets hope they evolved.

qwazix 2013-06-02 22:17

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
marxian is mad as hell and can't take it anymore :)

danested 2013-06-02 22:48

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1349035)
he should check his spam mail folder

Hmmm, possible. I hadn't thought of that... Thanks !

I'll tell my friend to tell his friend/relative :D

BTW the other question... how exactly is the voucher delivered? Email or post/Actual physical mail...

jellyroll 2013-06-02 23:01

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
If it isn't any more closed than the N900 I would buy it :D

onethreealpha 2013-06-02 23:53

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jellyroll (Post 1349081)
If it isn't any more closed than the N900 I would buy it :D

There.
Fixed that for you ;)

jellyroll 2013-06-03 00:05

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1349084)
There.
Fixed that for you ;)

Thanks dude :D

XiliX 2013-06-05 14:58

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
The system for transferring money to Jolla is all but 100% sane, but a email to Jolla helps a lot.
I have my confirmation mail for the 100euro pre-order, and looking forward to the release.
Now i just hope no-one else makes a shinier phone in the meantime. ;)

Dave999 2013-06-05 15:20

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1349062)

Solid story.

mikecomputing 2013-06-05 16:22

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Wonder how long preorder will exists? Because I want the tshirt in SUMMER actually that should be theyr "strategy" to atleast send tshirt NOW, because if they want more attention people has tshirts at summer NOT on winter atleast not outside...

Also setup an developer event ASAP.

marketing and people who makes apps is the key to success.

Sorry Jolla but there is no time for long vacations this summer(even if I now we need vacation in those shitty dark 9month/year in northeuropean). But this year you have to marketing...

AMD 2013-06-05 16:45

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Sorry for going a bit off-topic, but is there any Lebanese person besides me who pre-ordered Jolla? I am pretty sure that the maximum number of people who pre-ordered in ALL of Lebanon won't exceed 10.
And as don_falcone said before, we have all these stupid iChicks and Android dumba*ses.. If any Lebanese guy/gal has pre-ordered, please inform me, I would have some faith in humanity restored.

minimos 2013-06-05 16:56

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1349773)
Wonder how long preorder will exists? Because I want the tshirt in SUMMER actually that should be theyr "strategy" to atleast send tshirt NOW, because if they want more attention people has tshirts at summer NOT on winter atleast not outside...

I don't think the offer will be valid for too long, it would look weird to leave a pre-order hanging for too many months.
By the way, this one seems to the the actualy t-shirt design (from join.jolla.com):
https://join.jolla.com/assets/t-shirt.jpg

AMD 2013-06-05 17:05

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
I think it'll be over by next month...

mikecomputing 2013-06-05 17:07

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1349784)
I don't think the offer will be valid for too long, it would look weird to leave a pre-order hanging for too many months.
By the way, this one seems to the the actualy t-shirt design (from join.jolla.com):
https://join.jolla.com/assets/t-shirt.jpg

Just found when looking at the site the preorder date end is now set to 30 june and after that 2-4 weeks deliver of tshirt. So we can expect tshirt end of July.

AMD 2013-06-05 17:10

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1349787)
Just found when looking at the site the preorder date end is now set to 30 june and after that 2-4 weeks deliver of tshirt. So we can expect tshirt end of July.

Yeah.. I would love to wear it around in public places and make people wonder and comment :p

Dave999 2013-06-05 17:23

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1349773)
Wonder how long preorder will exists? Because I want the tshirt in SUMMER actually that should be theyr "strategy" to atleast send tshirt NOW, because if they want more attention people has tshirts at summer NOT on winter atleast not outside...

Also setup an developer event ASAP.

marketing and people who makes apps is the key to success.

Sorry Jolla but there is no time for long vacations this summer(even if I now we need vacation in those shitty dark 9month/year in northeuropean). But this year you have to marketing...

PreOrder exists until June 30!!!!!!!

mrsellout 2013-06-05 17:39

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1349787)
Just found when looking at the site the preorder date end is now set to 30 june and after that 2-4 weeks deliver of tshirt. So we can expect tshirt end of July.

Where did you get that date from? The only mention I can see is on the Pre-book part but that refers to the expiry date on the coupon (next year):
Quote:

If you participate in the pre-booking campaign and purchase the device when it becomes available, you will pay no more than 399 € (including VAT), excluding shipping costs and possible local taxes and other handling fees. The 100€ discount is valid through 30th of June 2014 - it is personal and non-transferable, nor can it be exchanged for money. No purchase necessary.

Wonko 2013-06-05 18:11

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1349793)
PreOrder exists until June 30!!!!!!!

Where is this date coming from?

The only thing related to a 30th of June I see on the Jolla site is:
Quote:

... The 100€ discount is valid through 30th of June 2014 ...
Which I essentially understand in the way that once the device is available the 100€ discount is valid till that date. And iirc this is nothing new but had been present till the first day of the campaign.

Edit: Thanks mrsellout, you bet me to it. ;)

Alecsandru 2013-06-05 19:08

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
i'll buy jolla's phone if the other half comes with hw keyboard , if not I'll stick with my n900

mikecomputing 2013-06-05 19:31

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1349804)
Where did you get that date from? The only mention I can see is on the Pre-book part but that refers to the expiry date on the coupon (next year):

Dooh you are right. I should have read better :cool:

Dave999 2013-06-06 11:17

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Jolla's OS is not that interesting on google...

http://www.google.com/trends/explore...20phone&cmpt=q

Leinad 2013-06-06 11:19

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1349945)
Jolla's OS is not that interesting on google...

http://www.google.com/trends/explore...20phone&cmpt=q

Are you sure?
http://www.google.com/trends/explore...20Jolla&cmpt=q
;)

Dave999 2013-06-06 11:22

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1349946)

yes, if you excluded the mobile vendor from jolla the word is used quite alot :D good one!

Leinad 2013-06-06 11:26

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1349948)
yes, if you excluded the mobile vendor from jolla the word is used quite alot :D good one!

Done :)
http://www.google.com/trends/explore...a%20-la&cmpt=q

latency 2013-06-06 12:21

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
I received this answer from Jolla by email just now when asking how long I will be able to pre-order?:

Hello!
Thank you for your interest in Jolla!
The end of the pre-order campaign has not yet been published. So please stay tuned!
We hope to see your order soon!
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care


It's not really saying anything but I thought I should share it either way :p Maybe I should have asked when they will publish how long the preorder will last instead. I've already ordered so it's not that important for me any longer...but I want that t-shirt! :cool:

AMD 2013-06-06 15:18

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
So.. No Lebanese person besides me at all has pre-ordered? Interesting...

Dave999 2013-06-06 15:30

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1350003)
So.. No Lebanese person besides me at all has pre-ordered? Interesting...

I guess you have to wait for the phone... Forever:rolleyes:

AMD 2013-06-06 15:40

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1350005)
I guess you have to wait for the phone... Forever:rolleyes:

Why? Does the number of pre-order-ers in Lebanon affect its shipment time? If so, I'm totally screwed.

nodevel 2013-06-06 16:09

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1350012)
Why? Does the number of pre-order-ers in Lebanon affect its shipment time? If so, I'm totally screwed.

<sarcasm>
Yes, the formula is as follows:

t = d/q

where
t = time it takes to ship, in days
d = distance from Jolla office, in kilometers
q = quantity of devices ordered from your country
</sarcasm>

Btw I think that the date of 30.6. makes sense - then you'll have one year to buy the actual device.

AMD 2013-06-06 17:58

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1350020)
<sarcasm>
Yes, the formula is as follows:

t = d/q

where
t = time it takes to ship, in days
d = distance from Jolla office
q = quantity of devices ordered from your country
</sarcasm>

Btw I think that the date of 30.6. makes sense - then you'll have one year to buy the actual device.

LOL. Nice one :D

myname24 2013-06-06 18:15

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1350003)
So.. No Lebanese person besides me at all has pre-ordered? Interesting...

No at least for now :)

biatch0 2013-06-06 23:57

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
We need more posts with links to convince us that a combination of Nokia and Microsoft marketing is able to cause more traffic than a start-up. Maybe if you post it multiple times it will better get your point across as well.

AMD 2013-06-07 07:24

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myname24 (Post 1350054)
No at least for now :)

But we NEED some people to pre-order, otherwise no Jolla in Lebanon, at all... Because of our stupid Android robots that follow idiocy.

Udemzy 2013-06-07 08:27

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Will there be a sailfish port for the N9?

XiliX 2013-06-07 08:33

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Udemzy (Post 1350179)
Will there be a sailfish port for the N9?

I wouldnt hold my breath, the N9 is a Nokia device, and if jolla starts supporting that, i think eflop will sue the begesus out of them. :p

Udemzy 2013-06-07 08:39

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XiliX (Post 1350180)
I wouldnt hold my breath, the N9 is a Nokia device, and if jolla starts supporting that, i think eflop will sue the begesus out of them. :p

Am not saying officially, like the way nitdroid and nemo is. And elop doesn't give a damn about n9 its a 2yr old device that's not running wp.

Fuzzillogic 2013-06-07 09:12

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XiliX (Post 1350180)
I wouldnt hold my breath, the N9 is a Nokia device, and if jolla starts supporting that, i think eflop will sue the begesus out of them. :p

No it's not Nokia's device. It's my device. I sure as taxes can install whatever I want on it.

Really, the concept of "property" is getting mysteriously diluted since the arrival of those ultra-closed platforms as iOS and WP. And people seem to be fine with it...

mikecomputing 2013-06-07 10:18

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1350189)
No it's not Nokia's device. It's my device. I sure as taxes can install whatever I want on it.

Really, the concept of "property" is getting mysteriously diluted since the arrival of those ultra-closed platforms as iOS and WP. And people seem to be fine with it...

AFAIK the Silica will be released after or near to the release of the device then its upto the nemomobile community to make it happen.

Jolla can't do it and why should they? If I were them I would not use my free time to port to another company's phone! Jolla's bussiness is to port Sailfish to X/Y company but NOT for free. So its either Nokia who has to pay them or the community (means us).

You can already now participate to help testing of todays nemomobile. There is alot of stuff in the core that need to be tested, fixed, bugreporting etc... Atm. GPS and NFC needs reverse enginnering and is not working in nemo. The more people get involved the faster this will work.

But do not expect SilicaUI to work as smooth as Harmattan on N9 or SilicaUI on Jollas new device....


Btw. I am not yet active in nemomobile myself just following the development. But hoppefully I soon will be active myself to...

edi_opteron 2013-06-07 11:18

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Hi guys. My first post lol, but I visit TMO whenever I can
Anyway , I'm a Medical student thus it is quite normal for me Not understand what you guys talk about like linux commands, QT and these things, but with all that, I bought N9 and I'm absolutely in love with MeeGo-Harmattan . I'm used to be a Nokia fan and I am! But I remain highly conservative against WP, mostly because it looks stupid compare to MeeGo , so that's why I managed to buy a Jolla mobile even though my country is not listed in the supported regions (I live in Iran ). But I have some questions that arise my concern alot.
We all are familiar with Nokia's superb bulid quality and durability , but this other half of jolla aside of it's intuitive feature looks terribly stupid! Will it stick to the body after 2 years of usage like the first day?
Dropping ! What if I droped the phone? I think I should search for the other half,lol. What if some dust sit in between? The other half looks weak to me. Do you still use N9's cover? Mine lost abit of it's shape due to the extremely hot wheather in here.
Since Jolla has no warranty and services in Iran, Some quality assurance is vital for the buyer .
I wish they come up with more details about the other half

Lumiaman 2013-06-07 12:13

Re: Will you buy the Jolla phone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edi_opteron (Post 1350217)
Hi guys. My first post lol, but I visit TMO whenever I can
Anyway , I'm a Medical student thus it is quite normal for me Not understand what you guys talk about like linux commands, QT and these things, but with all that, I bought N9 and I'm absolutely in love with MeeGo-Harmattan . I'm used to be a Nokia fan and I am! But I remain highly conservative against WP, mostly because it looks stupid compare to MeeGo , so that's why I managed to buy a Jolla mobile even though my country is not listed in the supported regions (I live in Iran ). But I have some questions that arise my concern alot.
We all are familiar with Nokia's superb bulid quality and durability , but this other half of jolla aside of it's intuitive feature looks terribly stupid! Will it stick to the body after 2 years of usage like the first day?
Dropping ! What if I droped the phone? I think I should search for the other half,lol. What if some dust sit in between? The other half looks weak to me. Do you still use N9's cover? Mine lost abit of it's shape due to the extremely hot wheather in here.
Since Jolla has no warranty and services in Iran, Some quality assurance is vital for the buyer .
I wish they come up with more details about the other half

Excellent point. My concern too. There are a lot of unknowns to just blindly jump in and buy the device. Wait for the first reviews by reliable sources. I am sure that obvious flaws will be easy to point out on initial review, with regards to durability, I hope there are few exNokian hardware engineers that will guide them well.


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