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About video and MP3 for Sailfish EA3 on Nexus 4 :
- see "Sailfish General > Q&A / Index sailfish on n4 thread (and other devices)" or follow the steps below;
- video (but it sometimes lags) : using Warehouse, go to "Categories" (swipe to left), navigate/search to install "Libraries-gst-plugins-bad-extra" (enable "sailfish_lib" repo then install it) and "Applications->System->Ultimate Codec Support" (enable "xerxes2" repo then install it);
- MP3 : download "gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.23-1.armv7hl.rpm" from xerxes2 repository, copy it to Sailfish, install using "pkcon install-local gst-fluendo-mp3-0.10.23-1.armv7hl.rpm" in Terminal.

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Well, I got ahold of the Jolla Launcher for android on XDA and installed it on my Galaxy Note 3. First thing I found is that it was really glitchy on the custom rom I normally use. But I changed to a stock deodexed version I had and it worked pretty well. The HD wall paper looks good. When you close an app it generally shows the app icon in the running apps grid. I prefer the Jolla grid over the column you get when you check recent tasks on android. Wish I could simply replace the android recent apps with the Jolla grid. When I start to close an app it nicely makes the transition to the grid of "running" apps. You can go back and forth over a small distance so that transition looks good. One thing is that it did not quite work exactly like on the Jolla phone because I had to lay my finger on the edge to make it work instead of just using the the point of my finger. But it still worked effectively. The maximum number of recent apps tiles seemed to be limited to 6. Not sure how to change that at this point. The pull down menu worked but there was no option for system. The swipe down on my phone still worked so I could get to android related settings and system stuff the usual way. Scrolling was a little laggy as I'm sure there is a bit of overhead to get this to work on andriod. One thing is that if you scroll up to get to your apps, there is no Jolla gesture to get you immediatley back to home page. This may be a little annoying for someone with a lot of apps. For daily drive I currently use the tweaked rom, ss launcher with gmd for swipe gestures. Overally this combination is still better for me than using Jolla Launcher. Regardless, once the performance is improved, some more features are added making it more customizable I think this launcher will be a real winner.


EDIT: Just a brief update. I was able to make 9 tiles on the home screen. And it seems that when you repeatedly use an app a snapshot of your more recent screen is eventually used as the tile. It still seems awkward when you start up an app there is a transition to the home screen with the tiles and then the app opens.

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@riyono

Looks like you just made it to the front page at xda, congrats!

http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...g-android-4-2/

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Its very unuserfreindly now :D glitches, boot loops and lag but WHO cares? I still beleive in a real port rather than lancher...still intressting move by jolla. Me likes.

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Looks like Jolla is about to get a whole lot busier...
Or at least a whole lot more whining from a user-base they hadn't intended (or are ready) to support.

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What are you talking about, the launder doesn't cause boot-loops, that occurs -sometimes- with Sailfish itself (& the port too possibly).

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Well, you have to hard reset over and over again in a manual Reboot loop if that makes It clear to you. But that is probobly related to Roms and android versions.

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Yeah it is a bit buggy (crashes randomly every once in a while, side swipes sometimes stop working, notifications stop showing up, no notification screen) but it (kind of) works! I was pleasantly surprised with it (not bad for Alpha version) and I'm using it purely as an email-checking-on-wifi device. My N9 is unusable for email now.

I got the apk from the XDA thread I'm using it on a galaxy nexus with a freshly flashed Paranoid Android 4.4 ROM.

Jolla releasing the launcher is a good thing IMO because it got me excited about Sailfish when I was just about beginning to get tired of it. I can't wait for the HADK to be released now.

OT: Anyone manage to get Ubuntu Touch (trusty) running on a Galaxy Nexus? I've tried and failed multiple times.

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I just installed it in cyanogenmod11 on galaxy s3(gt-i9300) and it seems pretty smooth until now(5mins :p)!

There are some things that I don't really like, because it is a launcher... Some of them are the status bar of android... When you swipe from the top it is visible even in the jolla launcher and it is a little ugly...

I also thought that the whole "swipe" thing that it gets you from the app to the opened apps would work with the launcher but it doesn't... :p

I know it is not ready yet but I would love to see this in the launcher, and even more I would love to install real jolla on my phone :D
Come on, it is summer :p

Edit: I found one more "bug". Whenever I lock my phone it usually does a small sound with every other launcher, but with jolla launcher it does the same sound and then it does 4 more times faster again the same sound... Does anyone noticed that?

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Same thing reported in the xda forum in riyonos topic, though only double sound (like when plugging jolla for just charging to a pc)

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Anyone heard anything more about the status of the HADK; plus progress on the Nexus 5 port?

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I heard its vacation now. Noone working:D

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this may indicate the progress ;)
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

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Yeah but what about the HADK...
Looks like there been little-to-no progress for the N5 since I last looked at that chart.

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yes, At least what is public, even finding an image not-public seems impossible.
But, then again, on my Nexus 4 its hardly usable as it is now.

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Sigh, if the N4's still hardly usable, then even the very latest N5 image is going to be a complete PIA.
I really don't see how this "strategy" it paying-off for them, certainly for the resources it's sucking...
The sooner they get an excellent HADK out the better, then maybe the wider Android world can take (at least some) of the load.

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Well there is a download link to the Nexus 5 port in its current state over at xda if you go into Nexus 5 General -> jolla developer ports sailfish os to nexus 5, then go to the bottom of page 6, but that is now an older version of the sailfish OS, although the latest sources seem to be available to update the rom, I'm not sure how to build it.

If someone has instructions to build the sailfish rom, then it would be greatly appreciated, since this is my first post, I doubt that I can post links otherwise, I would have given you a direct link to the nexus 5 sailfish os rom, the github account of where to build, and a link to the modified kickstarter file that I made (based from the one found in the github repo, to build the latest version for the nexus 5.

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well, the link for 1.0.5.16 is in this post

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=60

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yes, and if you look a few posts above that I have put a link for the repo, if you look at the kickstarter file and change the sailfish version from 1.0.5.16 to 1.0.7.16 then it should still work, as I checked the URL, and it seemed to be valid.

But i don't know how to build the rom.

EDIT: changing from 1.0.5.16 to 1.0.8.19 should also work as of yesterday, going to try and build again tomorrow, although remember I don't know what I'm doing ;)

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Get to work folks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/joll...2?goto=newpost

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These are some great news! Can't wait to test jolla on my GS3 :cool:

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Awesome, some more links here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Jolla/commen...ailfishos_pdf/
http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-e...lopmentKit.pdf

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For those with a Nexus 5...
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Bui...OS_for_Nexus_5

This list is getting bigger (& progressing) now too:
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/deta...fishos-porters

Re: Porting Sailfish to Android Devices
 

how about porting to a device with a hardware (QWERTY) keyboard?

Re: Porting Sailfish to Android Devices
 

How about getting it working great on any device first?

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s/sailfish-ports/sailfishos-porters/

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Huh? 10char

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Your original message should read sailfishos-porters not sailfish-ports.

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Originally Posted by jalyst

To see how things are progressing, check out the #sailfish-ports IRC logs:
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Anyone else using the alpha release on the Galaxy Nexus? I flashed it last night (surprisingly easy to do, unlike Ubuntu Touch which I never got working in the end). I haven't put my daily driver sim in it, and I'm using it on wifi only, but it seems to be pretty stable so far.

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Do you know if there is an updated build for N5? I'm not into IRC or code...

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^Best to checkout IRC, it's not that hard to set-up, quite easy actually.

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is the (final?) answer then that Jolla has given up on hardware keyboard?

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Given up? It has never even been on their radar. Why not buy a jolla and a keyboard from dirk?

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just to set the record straight...
several times during 2013 Jolla "top brasses" mentioned that a hardware keyboard TOH was a very real possibility.
any other company one would call it "marketing crap" but i guess considering Jolla's "stop losses" strategy since beginning of the year, one could call it "vaporware" :mad: :confused: :(

looks pretty much like soon Jolla itself is just going to be bitter memory...

ps: o, yeah, that community rubbish, were most of the keyboards had defective or poorly working keys?

EDIT: oki doki, apologies for missing Dirk's 2nd / new project. if it wasn't for an update to his project thread just after i typed this wouldn't even know about it (yet)...
o well, a troll is a troll...
when typing that i was still under the impression that it was "three in one"... the 1st, the only and the last one :eek: :p
my mistake :D :rolleyes:

well, that may be the real cause for Jolla's trouble... fantasising that "community" is going to be their "business model" ¦-))))))))
as i already mentioned elsewhere, they obviously didn't learn anything from the Maemo debacle @ NOKIA - gawd knows they had the best seats to follow it...
no brain, no pain?

EDIT: still for Jolla to pool, for example, in Communicator fan boys / nostalgics, i think Dirk will have to seriously scale up operations... well, @ least he has a business model :D :cool: ;)

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They've never said officially that a keyb TOH is definitely coming, they've agreed it might be a good idea, & something they may consider, nothing more.
They have welcomed the work done by dirk & others, & helped in small ways, but that's about as far as the extent of their involvement...
Will it come one day? Who knows. God knows they've been juggling a sh1t-load in the last 24mths, especially the last ~6, & it's only getting crazier.

I do agree though that they need far more substantive TOH hw &/or partners*, what they've delivered so far are little more than gimmicks...
We're yet to hear the full (& more interesting) story when it comes to TOH's, IMO it's due by Dec. at the latest, else they won't have delivered on the early promise/potential of TOH.
Personally I'm more interested in other TOH's, but a qwerty one is no doubt one of the most popular TOH's, if not the most popular one...


*that's partly why they'll prolly need to stick to the same form-factor for the J2, you don't build-up an accessory ecosystem by constantly changing form-factors, as Apple knows

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½ way [off topic], so let's try to keep it short...

crazy?
like in keeping a project in the air for ½ a dozen yrs without ever considering making it commercially viable until, well, until it was too late?
not sure Jolla can afford that, even until the end of the year, i'm afraid :eek: :( :confused:
in fact, from the dramatic price drops and desperate entries in new markets (India, China (?), HK), pretty darn sure they can't

crazy?
like in just having commited over 100€ to a (most likely) new Neo900 (board) this very morning & realizing this PM that i could actually get a hardware keyboard for my Jolla for... well, comparable amount - thus saving over 500€, give or take? :eek: :mad:
then again, Sailfish isn't and never will be Maemo Fremantle... >¦-)

crazy?
like having spent over 200€ on a Moto Photon Q (with cyanogenmod) and falling back on my 1st N900 with damaged sliding mechanism less then a month latter simply because nothing will ever (again) be like this little computer in our pocket, running a pretty much full fledged Linux based OS :.|
so crazy that over 300 ppl are willing to spend 700 or more €s to get a Neo900...

pick your choice :rolleyes:

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Re-read my updated post before jumping the gun, once again...
You'll find there's more common ground in our perspectives than differences.

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(see previous post...)

they don't have until the end of the year, as i already pointed out in last couple posts... they can't afford this "community strategy" anymore :( that was okay / cute while Symbian was earning the butter & bread, but now? too late


if memory serves well, J2 won't have TOH... thus moot point
you don't (really) expect them to all of a sudden go into offensive, do you?
since beginning of the year, their strategy has been one of retreat :( :mad: :.(
not a good strategy for a start up :|

EDIT:
copy that ¦-)
than again, common ground might more be fundamental differences, no?

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to put it bluntly, Jolla is dead
or more phlegmatically running out of resources.
bleeding capital.
then can't even afford to sell the Jolla at a cost covering price, and they certainly won't be able to do that in markets where devices have to be cheaper
a SGS3 is about 20'000 rupees
that's less then the 250€ the Jolla cost now
and they should earn the money to dev a J2?!?
wake up

EDIT: correct that... 250€ is SGS3...
EDIT2: which is (slightly) cheaper in India

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Sigh FFS, do not respond to this please, send me a PM if you want to continue discussing, this is already waaay OT...

I said that was the latest, & they did hint about ~2mth back that they hoped to make an announcement relating to TOH round about then. You don't have any intimate knowledge of their financial state, I only say then at the latest not because I know the state of their books, but merely because that's about the latest before they start to lose currency when it comes to delivering a credible TOH story. It might be as late as that simply because they're also trying to smooth out several other projects (& no I won't outline them, this is already crazy OT), ideally it'll be sooner than Dec, if it's later I think it'll hurt them too much.

There's no solid info. on what shape the J2 will take, only pure speculation & conjecture, they may drop TOH, but it'd be a mistake & a waste of LOTS of time/resources expended if they do so IMO. They need to at least see it through properly first, measure the effectiveness (or lack there-of), & then abandon it if it's clearly not helping. I've no idea what you're rambling on about in your last 3 sentences, I'm sorry.

And, you're massively assuming what the J1's RRP & ultimate street price will be in India...
We don't know that yet, for all we know it may only be modest mark-up to similarly spec'd Android devices.
They probably can't afford to undercut, but a modest mark-up might be do-able for them...
If they equalised or undercut it'd hurt them too much I suspect, as they have way more overheads than a Chinese (or similar) ODM.
But who knows, maybe they've cut some really good deals lately, you/I simply don't know...

You trying to claim that all they've done/achieved so far, is mainly because of what they did whist still at Nokia, & due to all the $/resources they had available to them then.*
If you are you'd be wrong, the vast majority of what they've achieved so far, has come from B.S.T tears "post" Nokia, there was little ground work in place to "set them up" for Sailfish.

You've got to be kidding me, go back to Nokia, f5ck no, that'd be like... amongst the dumbest things ever...
There's MANY other potential (& likely better) suitors, besides, it's too early/hard to say yet whether that's even necessary.
Please, enough with the silly little additions to your posts, it's still the same thing as continuing OT posts, as I said, PM me if you want to continue discussing this.

*haha that's funny

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indeed, the only future for Jolla Oy is as a (software) department of... NOKIA Oy
:-{

http://uphillwriting.org/wp-content/...ks-because.jpg

EDIT(2): (and that's NOT [OT])
EDIT3: then again, who gives a F### about Sailfish OS on a Nexus for gawd crying out loud?!?
EDIT4: admittedly, our house troll would have a point... SailfishOS has to run on any cheap crappy Android device, to attract that kind of manufacturer... sad, isn't it?
EDIT5: and that's not gona pay the bills, not @ the end of the year and not ever >¦-)
EDIT6: end of topic?

EDIT7: ever heard the expression
???
the Jolla folks had a free lunch (for 6 years) when they were @ NOKIA.
no more
unless...