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Loving the running commentary you're giving, it piques folks curiosity/interest, & increases the chance they'll engage & offer ideas/criticism/kudos. Any chance of another video soon?

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that is the intention! all the things i mention and comment about myself are open for critique. i might not always agree or be willing to change, but it is -in engineering at least- important to have considered all options.

so please, do critique or ask why i've made certain decisions! but do your research! :)

when i have the feeling something is ready or needs to be shown :)

you already got one today by the way!

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(1) +1

(2) Sometimes things are explained better via video...
E.g. a video equivalent of that last big post for some folks (not all), would convey things better.
But yes, I do note that you did one today, & thanks for that.

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ordered 4000 M1.6x3mm screws. 'for testing'

http://www.accuscrews.co.uk/22428-th...-M1-6-3-A2.jpg

sorry for the extremely uninteresting post. i realize you saw that there was a new post by me and expected something crazy. but that is not going to come. just a cardboard box filled with screws. sorry.

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What a beautiful rendering of a screw! :)
Only.... the thing in da picture is M1.5x10 if I am not mistaken...

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4000 screws just for testing? :P

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Your work is very impressive! And you are doing this on your own?

I had previously no interest for a keyboard but now, seeing how it looks, I'm changing my mind.

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This new keyboard looks great !
I want it :D

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question to you all:

would it be weird to (pre-)sell and deliver the base and bottom separately, with some time (say 2/3 months) in between?

to prevent cashflow and logistic issues on my side

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Yes. That would be a bit weird. :D

Sell them at the same time but delivery could be delivered separately even if it would be nice to get them at the same time.

But since you are a one man business I say it's fine. Just a bit weird.

Isn't hardware keyboard phone a bit weird Nowdays anyway? ;) So who cares. Just ship it.

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Weird? Definitely. Bad? Not necessarily.

I don't see the advantage, though - what if, say, you discover some flaw 1 month after sending out the bases... Bases will stay somewhere in a drawer, unused, while it will be too late to change them.

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okay, but say people pre-order a keyboard, would it then be better to keep the base here till the bottom is also ready? seems like the more logical thing to do

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yes, I think until all completed properly then you only send the keyboard bro

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cool. i'll go for that then!

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Pre-order => Prepayment :)

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working on revising the last cad model

-resizing and reshaping alignment pins
-magnets to other position
-minimizing distance between bottom and base magnets
-resizing pcb
-reshaping electrical connection between parts

new video when this one is ready.

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That sentence indicates that you confuse "weird" and "unusual". With that in mind, I totally agree with you.

Wooden TOHKBD rev2
 

Seems that Lastucase.com is working to release wooden TOH for Jolla. Would it be interesting to talk with them to learn if they could make the TOHKB v2 base + kb_part entirely from wood using your CAD design?

https://together.jolla.com/question/44252/wooden-toh/

"For now our product for Jolla is wooden skin, but we are planning to release Other Half -model too."

Lastucase could be also interesting channel partner for the end product as they have reseller network already in place. Maybe they'd license the design from you to reach larger audience?

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You might be right or completely wrong. But its weird that its unusual.

I followed the pattern of dirks post, he used 'weird' instead of other words so I just followed suit.

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See earlier in the the thread, he is in-fact already planning to work with Lastu.
*UPDATE*
Explained in the video here IIRC...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...86#post1437086

What's with the lame new captchas before posting, I do hope that's not a permanent thing?

Re: Wooden TOHKBD rev2
 

yes, already planning to work with them, expecting testpiece this week.

love the idea of making it entirely out of wood, but this is unrealistic. too expensive, not the same quality, not enough capacity.

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I understand your conserns but perhaps it's worth while asking about cost and quality to be sure this is out of bounds.

Don't get me wrong. I also like idea about wooden skinning that you're working with Lastu.

BTW, have you ever considered wooden kb buttons to go with wooden skinning (if the skinning idea will prevail)?

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Not my call or anything, but I disagree slightly with this.

Having the phone-side part of this available before the keybaord part makes sense for developers. I wouldn't mind having any and all other halves connect to the magnetic back panel, even if it makes the phone thicker. Talking to people about this I'm not the only one :)

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I'm not sure I'd be willing to purchase the whole package and get the two parts separately, but I understand your reasons. Hopefully this project will be succesful!

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A wooden TOH?

Could this idea get any better?

What's the story with ordering?

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on top of this page:
there will be some wood however, but not entire parts.


also mentioned lots of time, not yet. too many uncertainties. when (pre-)ordering opens, you will know.

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Mockup of Andrews keypad, to test shape, size and outline. Will not be printed like this later.

First impression: we are heading the right way

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gkdajfwj7h9...015.42.112.jpg

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Well, speaking of that... Don't forget to warn your "usual" customers (tobkbd1, diptoh, solartoh, and so on) when you start taking orders, and before all pieces are sold. :]

Please. :>

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affirmative

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Maybe the split delivery package could gather more consensus if you could include in the base part any extra (funky?) functionality, so that by itself it's not totally useless.
Something that wouldn't require to completely re-engineer the base board, so prob. not much more than some blinkenlights?

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will your keyboard have programmable backlights? :)

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Ya, +1 for blinkenlights!
We definetly need moar blinkenlights!!

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my 10 chars...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l...no/leddies.jpg

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Will there be a construction, so tohkbd will be guided when opening/closing? Is it also possible to let one of the parts fall out of your hand while moving?

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scan through the last pages from this thread (from page 14 up), question is asked and answered before.

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No.

It's a keyboard, not a space shuttle.

And space shuttle became much too expensive to use exactly because of this kind of stupid featurism, "lets throw everything including kitchen sink".

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No.

It should be a keybord, not a space shuttle.

And space shuttle became much too expensive to use exactly because of this kind of stupid featurism. It should have been a "cheap full-reusable taxi to space station" but they ended up making it a "semi-reusable truck" instead because of requirement creep.

I want a keyboard this year, not a christmas tree with integrated keyboard next year.

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Next testpieces are in!

- Reshaped alignment pins (less high and less steep), feel a lot better
- Keyboard is now completely reversible!

High-rez pics

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6okgzh53rip...983_lowrez.jpg

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Nice pics, all that's left is keymat and keypad right?

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yes, that square will be filled with one giant keypad!