Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I think I messed something up, because when I downgrade to 2.0.5.7 I get the same error message. Oh and I can connect over WiFi I think, telnet I didn't manage to get working, also ssh over USB not. I an not at home until Monday so then I wool try again

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

i could "repair" it, but i couldn't resist trying to upgrade again. I did it like the instructions for 2.0.5.6, after upgrading to 2.0.5.6, except for instead of version --dup i did a zypper dup, because it didn't find the patterns, did it find the patterns for you? maybe it has something to do with that you have v3 and i have v5. in case you're interested i post dmesg output again^^

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

i wonder if we can use windows drivers, but where to get them

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

does any telegramclient work for you?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Is there any notion of a forthcoming upgrade of the present installation to 2.2.x?

I'm still using my Onda (SFOS 2.0.5.6) regularly, but find that a lot of software can no longer be upgraded or installed.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

what software do you want to use?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Now that SFOS 3 is out I would love to use it with the white ambience on my white Onda tablet. I understand if the interest to craft an update for the device is slim - just mentioning there is still interest - especially after the Youyota tablet project apparently vaporized earlier this year.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

As aforementioned, I would love to have SFOS 3 running on the Onda tablet. Please please please... :-)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Just wondering, am I the only one still (happily) using his Onda tablet? While luminosity could be better :rolleyes:, it's still a great device. If only I could get it updated to SFOS3... ;)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

No, you are not the only one. I'm still use this tablet too. As you say, SF3 on this device would be fantastic !!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

i use it too

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

It would be incredible to have a tablet full updated with Sailfish 3 running. I love how Sailfish performs on big screens!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I will try to reuse https://github.com/g7/droid-compat-f5321 idea to make it more maintainable.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

It sounds really, really great! I think all who have this tablet here, are using it due to its great performance still nowadays

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

That's wonderful news!!! I am so eager to see the results! Thank you!!! :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Just last night I picked up my Onda again to do some reading. And I kept thinking how great it would be if I were able to install some more current packages.

May I just sheepishly ask how 3.0.2.8 is coming along for the Onda? ;) It would be wonderful to have my little tablet up to speed! :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

For the good news, I was able to upgrade mine to 3.0.2.8 with droid-compat packages (and it should be less hacky/easier to maintain) than previous approach.

Before trying, please back up the important data (or SailfishOS itself) in case reinstall would be needed. It is also better to have PC nearby which can be used for debugging via USB network connection if something goes wrong.

Here are the steps if you're on 2.1.3.7. I suspect it should work from 2.0.5.6 as well (then removing old -onda-v820w-v3 packages is not needed), but I didn't try it myself.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Thanks a million for that!!! I am really excited about this good news!!! :) I shall try this as soon as I find a liltle time (after all, I don't want to break anything only because I am rushing things).

Will I need to ssu re 2.1.3.7 first? BTW, how did you get your tablet to version 2.1.3.7 in the first place? Maybe I could retrace those steps just to be sure!?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

My guess is no as it is not a stop release. My guess might be wrong, though. I'll see what happens as soon as I have some time to try the upgrade.

EDIT: No luck with my 2.0.5.6 installation (adaptation0 & adaptation1 were present and enabled):
zypper in jolla-configuration-tbj jolla-hw-adaptation-tbj
first showed a popup complaining about my account settings, so I re-entered the Jolla Account credentials in Settings. Retrying the command didn't help, so I ran:
pkcon refresh

One more try, and I got the response:
I guess I'll have to try again when I have more time.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Same here... I tried this and hit a bump right away. :( zypper in ... gave me this error:

Presumably, there is something wrong with the repositories on my Onda.

The version given as 2.2.0.29 bugs me, because AFAIK I got 2.0.5.6 installed and definitely never updated. :confused: I remember, though, the Jolla store mentioning there would be an update available. But I never tried to install it.

What might be a prudent course of action now?

Another question: Apart from this problem, should I disable openrepos next time?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

P.S. Is there an easy (and still safe!!!) way to turn back the repositories to 2.0.5.6? Something like ssu re 2.0.5.6 maybe?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Me again...

So, I tried
The result was the same: 'jolla-hw-adaptation-tbj' not found in package names etc.

Afterwards, I also re-tried the whole thing with ssu re 2.1.3.7 - still the same result.

So, I guess we'll need a hint where to find jolla-configuration-tbj and jolla-hw-adaptation-tbj. Any ideas?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I made a mistake in the previous post. It should be:

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Thank you so much for your help, @TheKit!

Alas, I managed to get myself into another mess. It seems like my Onda can't get into the store (after having removed a lot of rpms). In your list I am stuck at the first version --dup.

It seems like my Onda has forgotten it's Jolla credentials (agh!). Now the "Settings" in the GUI won't start, so I can't re-enter my username and password. Is there a way to enter the Jolla credentials on the command line?

Edit: I found ag-tool but don't know how to use it.

Any help will be appreciated!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Have you tried running
It might not help but I exprienced some trouble with Jolla credentials earlier and that helped. I know it is an often suggested solution but then again in my own experience roughly 90% of any installation/upgrade problems I've come across have been resolved by it.
YMMV

EDIT: My bad, you actually have done that. Sorry, I wasn't paying enough attention to earlier messages.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

It worked!!! \o/

Before everyone stops reading: After the installation, I now only have four keyboard layouts: Emoji, English and what looks like two Chinese layouts.

How do I install more keyboard layouts?

Edit: Easily fixed, just run devel-su zypper in jolla-keyboard-layout-all

Back to the topic at hand...

Eventually, I had to reinstall SFOS with the installer from scratch (version 2.0.1.7). An intermediary attempt at first upgrading to 2.0.5.6 before proceeding failed again.

In the end, I used the installer once again and ran through the instructions in one go.

There was one curious thing that came up but didn't seem to matter in the end:

Also my tablet seemed to be a little confused about the versions it was running during the process. Alas, it did not interfere.

And a little later...

@TheKit, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for all that work!!!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I also managed to upgrade, wohoo!

There were trouble at first with the repositories and/or credentials etc. and I didn't seem to be able to fix those so it was best to start all over from the start.

Updated also my repo if I need to do this again in the future.

Huge thanks once more to TheKit and also to dubliner for trailblazing & good info.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Just wondering, does Bluetooth work for you? Nothing happens when I tap it.

dmesg: bcm_bt_lpm ... Error evaluating UART port number

Also, in AIDA64 all the sensors remain empty. I noticed this when I wasn't able to change the orientation. Didn't they use to work?

@tmi, you suggested installing jolla-settings-system-sideloading in your repo, however, I keep being asked for a password. How did you manage to do that?

Edit: Duh, I just needed to use zypper instead of pkcon. jolla-settings-system-sideloading is installed now! :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

BT tries to turn on but fails (shows briefly "on" via the quick buttons/top menu, keeps on flashing the dot via Settings). So no, it's not working... maybe it also needs a manually installed package? I haven't used BT with the tablet so I cannot say if it was working earlier or not.

Accelometer, Compass, Orientation Sensor & Rotation Sensor give readings in Aida64 and I can turn the orientation to landscape just fine.

Glad you got it installed with zypper! I don't ever remember being asked for a password when using pkcon.

FYI I'm running 3.0.3.8 Hossa as I've signed for EA releases, no developer updates/repos, though.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

To be quite honest, I don't remember with any certainty whether I used to have BT working on the tablet. I always thought so, but who knows... Bluetooth shows up as version 3.0 on Aida64. So, I really wonder what might be missing...

That's interested. I kept rebooting my Onda for several times, but no luck. All of the sensors are left blank on Aida64. sigh... :( Might your different outcome have something to do with your upgrade to Hossa? BTW, I am looking forward to doing that myself. Yet, I will wait for the release (can't be too much longer, can it? ;) ).

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Your guess is as good as mine regarding Hossa and the sensors. I take it landscape isn't working for you? I think it was already working for me on 3.0.0.8 but I cannot be sure as I repeated the install & upgrade process on the tablet 2-3 times while trying different things until I was happy with it.

Also, for some reason I've always had hard time connecting to wifi for the first time (after that it connects automatically just fine) on the initial install. I'm not claiming this has anything to do with the sensors just that things might be a little hit&miss with these (cheap) tablets.

I know it's a bit of a pain but you could always try to re-install your tablet if all else fails or Hossa doesn't help either.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

While I am waiting for version --dup to entice me with a whole new version of SFOS (yay \o/ ), I started thinking that, maybe, that one error I encountered during the initial installation might be the cause for the non-functional sensors:

Code:

---

[root@Jolla nemo]# zypper in pattern:droid-compat-v820w
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

Problem: pattern:droid-compat-v820w-0.0.1-10.8.1.jolla.noarch requires droid-compat-v820w-droid-system, but this requirement cannot be provided
  uninstallable providers: droid-compat-v820w-droid-system-0.0.1+master.20190420220535.ed0e0f4-1.13.1.jolla.i486[tmp-compat-v820w]

---

Is there any way I could (should?) install that package droid-compat-v820w-droid-system now?

Edit: Running zypper in droid-compat-v820w-droid-system fixed the sensors issue!!! \o/ Unfortunately, no change with BT, though.


I've known this problem only too well! Actually, for me it's been a problem with every SFOS device I use (Nexus5, Onyx and the Onda). Might this be a general connman issue? Has anyone else encountered that and maybe found a solution?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

When I went over the output again, there is one thing that stood out:

Maybe this is the key to the missing Bluetooth functionality. Thus, there are two questions on my mind?

1) Where can I get this package from? droid-system-tbj
2) Is it safe to install it now (i.e. "last")?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Unfortunately not working for me:

The package install itself but I can't see more keyboards layouts in settings to choose :( Do you have any ideas?

Edit: I only need to install Spanish layout in addition.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Not working for me neither:

Choosing second option at last does nothing.

Any ideas, please?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Have you tried refreshing
What happens if you choose 1 for downgrading with the keyboard layouts?

EDIT: There is also the package jolla-keyboard-layout-western you could try to install

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I'd just like to confirm that for me this file (with a few more) was installed automatically.

Could you check your repositories? Mine look like this, although the 3.0.2.8 baffles me:

You could also try that magic devel-su pkcon refresh which seems to solve a lot of mysterious problems.

Okay, and now I'll look into why my repos haven't upgraded to 3.0.3.9... :rolleyes:

P.S. Anyway, I ran ssu re 3.0.3.9 ; version --dup again and all the repos are now showing the correct version. No idea how that happened. Guess my Onda must be time travelling when I'm not looking. :cool:

P.P.S. Still can't find the package my Onda had been complaining about earlier.


Where can I get droid-system-tbj from? And do I actually need to install it? Might this be the reason for the lack of Bluetooth functionality?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Sadly it doesn't help. I still can't install any other keyboard :(

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Ok, same here. My tablet is on 3.0.2.8 repositories:

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Ok, after doing "ssu re 3.0.3.9" and "version --dup" by second time, alot of package seems that was missing and install flawlessly. No problem. Now it seems that we are in real 3.0.3.9, because doing by third time "ssu re 3.0.3.9" and "version --dup" terminal says: "NO UPDATES FOUND. Try again later."

But problem with keyboard languages persist, but now in a different way:

Now system can't find "jolla-keyboard-layout-all-0.7.2-1.10.4.jolla.i486.rpm" package anymore, what leads me to think about the posibility of... "pkcon refresh" and...

Bingo!

That's the problem. You will need to run twice "ssu re 3.0.3.9" and "version --dup" then "pkcon refresh" and you'll be fine to install all the package you need in 3.0.3.9 Hossa