Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

DaveP1, exactly how I feel.

iJanne: Stop beating the same drum about the N900 not being not a consumer smart phone. I am a consumer and I bought one. That's the end of that argument. It's listed under phones, and open to consumers. Any points you make here are completely ridiculous.

Also, Nokia NEEDS to produce a smart phone to compete with the market. What are you talking about? Look at this phone, it even looks like an iPhone. Is it a coincidence that they advertised all the features that this phone has and that the iPhone is lacking? I don't think so.

Bottom line is that this phone, as it is right now, falls short of the market measuring stick and it's up to Nokia to do something about it. It is completely irrelevant that a handful of enthusiasts (me included) like the phone and will keep using it. This does nothing for Nokia's bottom line or their downward spiraling market share. I understand your opinions but this phone has been botched from the day it was supposed to come out and it didn't.

More problems to add:

- Definite memory issues somewhere, phone slows down considerably if it stays on for too long without a reboot.
- Stuck in portrait again today.
- Browser is IMPOSSIBLE to use while page is loading. It doesn't even display a checkerd pattern if you scroll but simply a white page.
- Browser displays a black screen for a few seconds when switching to full screen mode on certain pages.
- Browser fails to display the page sometimes after it is done loading. Once you start scrolling it starts displaying the page.
- Buttons on the call screen are in messed up order. The accept call button is in the middle of the screen with buttons on top and on the bottom. It needs to be the only thing on the screen or not surrounded by anything else, to avoid accidental presses of other buttons.
- Media player does not remember shuffle settings if you click the back arrow and select another song from the list.
- Random interface slowdowns where you click to call a contact and you stare at the screen for 5 seconds with nothing happening.
- Sound quality when connected to speakers is abysmal when compared to a PSP

I am starting to feel the need for some apps. The phone doesn't do much out of the box...where are the games, the funny picture apps etc?

Ovi Maps is not even laughable. Just simply ignore it exists. It's the worst GPS/Mapping application in the history of GPS. It takes forever to open and panning the maps is atrocious. GPS lock can take forever if you're not on Wifi for some reason (yes with a good data connection). I have simply never felt the need to use it anymore after I had to stare at the loading screen for what...30 seconds or so? All I have to say is google maps on the iPhone. Opens in 2 seconds, GPS lock in no time...and guess what...I can find that pizza place in another 10 seconds. Good luck doing that with Nokia Maps.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

We tested all sorts of things, typically dependent on the persons interests.

Once again: take both the reactionary complaints AND praise with a healthy dose of skepticism. That includes statements like "THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE" and "THIS IS THE PERFECT PHONE". :rolleyes:

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

So apart from these garbage/perfect posts...if you guys tested the phones let me ask you:

1. How did you miss all the bugs?
2. Have you reported some of these bugs and are they being worked on?

Sorry, but a media player app not remembering shuffle settings after you select a different song from the playlist tells me that nobody even used the media player app before the phone was released.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

Then you failed to do your research epicly.

I am not saying the N900 is not available for "consumers", just that it is not a consumer smartphone. It is a mobile computer and marketed as such. Just because some site lists it under "phones" does not change this. You ignored my earlier argument that N810 is also listed under phones - they list their Internet tables under their devices category, most of which are phones. Sure, it works as a phone but it is a mobile computer.

Again, read their product page:

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

Why the heck did you expect it to be something it was not designed to be?

They barely mention the phone functionality in the specs!

Misleading to list it under phones (like listing N810 there), perhaps, blame them for that, but the N900 is not what you are asking it to be. Return it to the store or sell it, it is not for you - possibly never will be. When Nokia announced it, they told us months ago loud and clear what it would be - and what it would not be. Just because you thought different doesn't make it so.

I am "beating the same drum" because a lot of you guys are ignoring the simple mission statement of this device. I'd be fine if you'd say releasing such a device was a mistake or causing confusion - that is certainly very much arguable and I'd be fine accepting your opinion - but saying it lacks because it is not something it was never designed to be, just because you thought it would be all that, is just utter stupidity. We all knew, or we should have known, going in what this thing is going to lack. Especially we knew it would lack content. N900 is a stepping stone to create content for Maemo.

Maemo is not yet a smartphone OS, at the time being it is still an Internet tablet/mobile computer OS with phone functionality. That is what the N900 is and that was its place on the Maemo roadmap, by design. Sorry if you thought otherwise, but you didn't do your research.

Again, you can very well state Nokia should have more than a mobile computer with Maemo out by now, I think very few people are disagreeing with that. We all know Nokia is late and Symbian is aged. But they have what they have, and N900 is not a consumer smartphone - it was not designed to be one. It is a mobile computer withe phone functionality aimed at a different market. Your expectation simply wasn't in line with what was announced as the product N900. You should have know better and not bought it.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

I can certainly sympathize with that. I am not saying the N900 is for everyone. Actually, I'm saying it is not for everyone - by design. :) I have recommended, in real life, against getting it to many people who are not within the target market.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

I think the problem is that regardless of whatever you call the N900, be it a phone, a tablet, or a mobile computer, it cant really explain why there are issues with the device in terms of bugs.

You can argue that since the phone application is not its main area of focus, certain things such as unique ringtones for each contact is not to be expected. However, broken exchange support, and email experience in general and flat out bugs with the device cannot be explained by the label you put on it.

Nokia rushed the release, which is something they admit themselves. That said, I reckon that most of the bugs will be fixed with time. I dont know if we should expect all the features people here are longing for, but for a $600 device, you should at least expect the software to be reasonably bug free.

Also, I would expect that a mobile computer would offer me a superior calendar en email experience.

I am not trashing the N900, but I am really tired of people saying that the reason we have all these bugs and issues is because its not a phone..Thats hardly relevant..

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

I agree with you Untouchab1e. Those reading my messages carefully can hopefully see that.

Whatever N900's shortcomings as a mobile computer, any instability or bugs, certainly warrant our attention and dislike. Continue to beat the drum about these and lets get Nokia to fix them. This is a good mobile computer, it needs to mature into perfect.

However, lacking features known from existing smartphones is by design. In this case, Nokia admitting Maemo is not yet ready for a consumer smartphone release, they admit not everything would be there, and they aimed for something different because, in this time frame, they just couldn't get to that smartphone level yet from Maemo's tablet/computer roots - so they CHOSE to have an intermediate step, that of a mobile computer with phone functionality. We knew this, we should have known this, Nokia was open and frank about it - the state of Maemo and the roadmap.

By the way, I hope and continue to ask Nokia to roll back into the N900 any future features they add to Maemo on the road to full smartphoneness, but that doesn't change the fact that we knew it not be there from the get-go and it may never be there.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

After 4 days My N900 has few pixels missing, I mean they always show white colour.............

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

I'm sorry, but are we in the minority (or just a silent majority) who think Nokia was frank and open about the fact the N900 would be "X". Yet some people continue to complain because the N900 is not in line with their expectation that N900 would be "Y".

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

iJanne you are not in the minority.

Just most people are just getting on and enjoying their device, where they see problems they are logging bugs, and where they can help others they are just getting on with it.