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-   -   Jolla User Experience Thread (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91875)

Tujutzki 2013-11-29 09:16
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Ok, this is a link to a news article but I think at least one part relates to user expecience quite closely:
http://www.zdnet.com/so-jolla-what-a...et-7000023736/

The relevant part: "The feature set is something that where we were [three months ago], we stopped, and said 'let's stabilise this set of features and then, when we have those stable, we can start adding'. The things where we didn't have enough time or confidence they were stable, we just removed them. And we still have them, they're just in a drawer, bubbling away," Mosconi said.

w00t 2013-11-29 09:29
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papru (Post 1390514)
Battery life is also quite disappointment. After 3,5 hours, battery is at 82%. Almost whole time idling on the table. Only email sync every 30 mins and 5 mins web browser use.
Have you used Android applications?

Do you have IM enabled? Facebook? How many contacts on your contact list?

If you install powertop

(enable developer mode, ssh over USB, run 'devel-su', enter password in developer mode panel in settings to get root, then run:

ssu ar mer-tools
pkcon refresh
pkcon install powertop)

and run powertop for a few minutes with the screen off/device idle, what shows up?

Manatus 2013-11-29 09:31
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1390540)
That is REALLY bad! Can somebody else of the Jolla owners confirm that experience as well?
Many of us wanted to belief that slower CPU and lower res screen can/will be easily forgotten with stellar battery performance.
I can put up and live with some missing functions, but having less than a day of normal operation is pissing me off.
On the positive side - I was happy to hear call quality/volume is better than N9 which sometimes is nearly impossible to use in a car or crowded place.
Can't really say much yet, as I don't think the battery software has had chance to calibrated yet. So far it looks like it lasts as N9 did.

Venty 2013-11-29 09:40
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sponka (Post 1390145)
@mikelima -- just over border in Slovenia MMS are included in monthly subscription and is not such cost. There are lots of people that don't use email or have internet access on phone at all, there are also areas where connection is so bad you don't get reasonable speed, for ie. somewhere deep in woods :P and in such occasion MMS is far better solution than email. I can assure that at least with Nokia (dumb) phones MMS work realiably and I actually don't remember that ever failed.
Same goes here in Switzerland, at least with Swisscom subscriptions. And yes, I have some contacts with just feature phones where MMS just works out of the box.

Using external services is not going to solve it as nobody I know uses them. I also don't want to use them, at least Whatsapp has some privacy issues, like it wants to upload your phonebook...

Venty 2013-11-29 09:44
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1390129)
Media volume goes nice and loud, there is a warning at a certain level which must be clicked through but I can take that.
I may be wrong but AFAIR this is due to some regulation from the EU.

bockersjv 2013-11-29 09:47
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Regarding battery life, I will see today at work how long it lasts before a charge. It will be getting some heavy demo usage though.

I have noticed that the battery % does seem accurate. On my N9 one I was below 30% I needed to be no further than one hour from a charger. There is none of the old 20% to 4% drop in a matter of minutes.

In Helsinki when I was getting to know the device I got to 3% battery and it did not do the N9 three knocks of impending doom. I have not yet use it to exhaustion so not sure how much notice you get of shut down.

As for screen brightness, IMHO it is like the N9 on the normal setting. It cannot match the OLED Vivid setting.

bockersjv 2013-11-29 09:50
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venty (Post 1390558)
I may be wrong but AFAIR this is due to some regulation from the EU.
Indeed it is adopted by all heaphone devices now but I complement Jolla for giving you the option. Unlike Sony on their latest Walkman range which is so quiet as to be useless and even firmware hacking fails to fix it.

w00t 2013-11-29 09:51
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1390560)
In Helsinki when I was getting to know the device I got to 3% battery and it did not do the N9 three knocks of impending doom. I have not yet use it to exhaustion so not sure how much notice you get of shut down.
you got pretty close. iirc 3% is the shutdown point ;)

zlatko 2013-11-29 09:58
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
@w00t
As long(er) time Jolla phone user - can you please share with us your real-life experiences with battery operating times?
And if you sailors are continuing working in optimizing OS power consumption performance?

att 2013-11-29 10:03
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1390548)
(enable developer mode, ssh over USB, run 'devel-su', enter password in developer mode panel in settings to get root, then run:

ssu ar mer-tools
pkcon install powertop)
Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find powertop

ssu lr
Enabled repositories (global):
- adaptation0 ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/r...ommon/armv7hl/
- adaptation1 ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/r...m-sbj/armv7hl/
- aliendalvik ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/r...iendalvik/SbJ/
- apps ... https://releases.jolla.com/jolla-app...lease/armv7hl/
- eas ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/f...e/eas/armv7hl/
- hotfixes ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/...fixes/armv7hl/
- jolla ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/...jolla/armv7hl/

Enabled repositories (user):
- mer-tools ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/...v7hl/packages/
- store ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/SbJ/armv7hl/

Disabled repositories (global, might be overridden by user config):

Disabled repositories (user):
- home ... https://download.jollamobile.com/hom...atest_armv7hl/


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