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Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1552349)

getting a librem 5 and putting sailfish os on it, if that is what you wanted

oh no, I don't want a 5.7'' skateboard with 720p screen.

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1552352)

oh no, I don't want a 5.7'' skateboard with 720p screen.

Keep wishing then, i'm sure one day you will get the unicorn if you wish hard enough

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i STILL cant get over how they fricken advertised it as 5" and just changed it to 5.7" without even bothering to make an announcement or justify the decision or anything. they just pretend like "5 inches" means "you know, sort of 5-inch-like" and that they always meant it that way

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by wolke (Post 1552373)

They have told that in a blog post as far as I remember.

The choise is probably because it is hard to get 5" this days? Ever heard of the world small volumes vs big volumes?

And since we talk about the HW:

For those who wonder about the CPU: We can't be sure it will be the same ARM core as the one used on devboard eg: iMX8M.

More realistic seems to be a iMX8M-Mini cause of the problems with iMX8M is eating to much power. There has been a blog post about the power problems last year. But my guess is people has forgotten it and people will soon whine about that also but hey is there something else we can choose? Just tell me... Maybe another CPU manufacturer? Maybe Allwinner LOL now try get techsheets from them in best case you get a google translate from chinese PDF. Qualcom? no way closed as heck. The one used in the RPI(Broadcom)? nope they want big volumes. TI naah to old CPU and also GFX closed.

So nope we are back on NXP land and iMX8 family or iMX6.

No someone will say there is a open competitor: Necuno mobile LOL. Open?? Nope something is really smoking ******** with their site and marketing.

The true is:

We should be happy Purism at least try make a open phone which is far from easy task. Indeed almost impossible. Many has failed already.

AFAIK librem5 is the most open hardware as far as I know. Not even rapberrypi can compare.

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I also like the freedom, It's not just about how fast it is. It is about how well you use what you have.

Android software is getting slower every release.

Sailfish is still not open!
Can we even make a compatibility layer to run sailfish apps on GNU/Linux? (No proprietary software in a chroot)

Anyway, check out the dev board: here
Go big :eek: or go home :p

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552478)

For those who wonder about the CPU: We can't be sure it will be the same ARM core as the one used on devboard eg: iMX8M.

More realistic seems to be a iMX8M-Mini cause of the problems with iMX8M is eating to much power.

That would be quite a bummer, since the Mini doesn't seem to have HDMI. [1]
What's Purisms take on that?

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552478)

No someone will say there is a open competitor: Necuno mobile LOL. Open?? Nope something is really smoking ******** with their site and marketing.

Can you elaborate please?
I don't feel well informed about the Necuno at the moment, but that might be just my fault because without a GSM modem that device is of little interest to me.

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552478)

AFAIK librem5 is the most open hardware as far as I know. Not even rapberrypi can compare.

What do you think of the Dragonbox Pyra in comparison to the Librem 5?
I know their concepts aren't totally comparable, but besides that, is there a reason you didn't mention it?

btw:
Do you know what happened to the Librem 11 detachable? It's been announced for how long now? 2 years?
What happened to it that resulted in it neither seeming to make any progress nor being cancelled?
I'd be fine with either of those options as long as there's info on that, but by now frankly I'd expect that info to be placed prominently on the product's page.

[1] https://www.nxp.com/products/process...rs:IMX8-SERIES

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552168)

There already is Rust bindings for QML, but also Gtk, the one I have tried is https://github.com/woboq/qmetaobject-rs. When/if I port sailserver to librem I will for sure write backend in Rust instead of C++. It is way easier and fun make a tinywebserver in C++ using already written framework such as actix-web. It can be really cool indeed since you may add your own templates and so on.

Offtopic a bit: I'm also watching this one and will try to get it running on Sailfish when the Qt version allows it (>= 5.8). According to latest resolved issues, seems it already runs on Ubuntu Touch. Very promising. Planning to rewrite Troll Bridge with it as I really don't like Go :).

Re: Purism Librem Phone

New blog post, a retrospective of the dev kit development:
https://puri.sm/posts/how-we-designe...free-software/

I think that must be the first project with that much updates and openness I have seen. They have mostly kept the same updates rhythm all along the past year, and seem to continue to do so. Good !

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by one_with_linux (Post 1552493)

"Oh boy, it looks great"

Would be even better if the LCD display actually worked.
Still waiting for that... Those damn display controllers... Often those are messy to get going on embedded products :(

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by Zeta (Post 1552562)

Yup I like their are so open. They also answers questions on matrix channels.

Next time I buy a laptop I will buy it on puri.sm for sure.