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flareup 2008-09-24 23:26
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great thread, and really interesting stuff - I've always seen my 770 then 800 as a "mini-pc" so these developments are very welcome.

a couple of things - the main usage for me for this "mobile hand-held pc" is by its nature out-of-the-house, in fact i just realise I haven't used my 800 over the last month while I've had no away trips... so I'm one of those "the 770 hard shell was a great design" people. I hope that the 900 will have some kind of "wow" design factor innovation.

but one question for those who were at the summit/or might be in "the know" - the talk of maemo 5 and the 900 sounds very, very promising - but is this still only step 4 of 5?

allnameswereout 2008-09-24 23:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 227123)
If they are too busy with their toy, you might have to tap them upon the backside of their cranium. Gently of course.
Their Apple owned toy.

Some of the aspects of the iPhone are nice though. Learn from them like they learned from others.

Consistent GUI is nice. Full screen is nice (especially for people without attention span). Skyhook API is nice. Application popping up in your face (like possible with Compiz) is nice. Waiting a minute when you typed a 'S' in your addressbook is not nice. Bad 3G chip is not nice. Vendor lock-in is not nice. And so on. :)

allnameswereout 2008-09-24 23:31
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 227136)
I noticed that here in Vancouver there seems to be a lot of open APs with "default" or "linksys" or some such name. In Berlin, every access point was named, and almost all of them were WPA protected. I was quite surprised.
Recent court ruling proved that according to German law one is responsible for whatever happens on their connection/AP. You might run into stuff like APs for FON, Boingo, T-Mobile, and so on though.

ARJWright 2008-09-25 00:47
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 227106)
Actually the UI is not half bad if you turn off most of the toolbars, put the remaining toolbars on the sides and go fullscreen. Some of us actually do use OOo on the tablet "for a long period of time;" perhaps we are already insane (by your definition), so that is why we are not driven there.

Evolution e-mail's UI, on the other hand, isn't very usable on the tablet. They don't let you change the layout enough.
You do understand that in this statement that you have validated the statement that the user interface, that is the screen that you utilize to be most productive within an application's use context, needs to address mobile use right. You actually invalidated the statement that the desktop UI (not UX, which is user experience and another layer completly) fits the tablet ;)

FYI: we probably would be best to stop talking about UI and UX considering there was almost nothing of substance to pull from impressions or notes since the dev conference was more about the foundations that lead to making an improved UI and UX easier to manage. If you will, the tools are the attention to UI/UX, the output from the tools (interface, useage cases, programming rules, stylesheets, etc) is what we should evaluate. And those won't be able to be done in context until the SDK and a live device gets into our hands.

Texrat 2008-09-25 02:49
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How much of the fremantle UI was shown?

sjgadsby 2008-09-25 03:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 227170)
How much of the fremantle UI was shown?
All of it. You may talk freely.

Go on. Really, it's okay!



Alright, they showed a few slides of "design exploration" during the Maemo UI Vision session and explained the goal is a more document-centric design.

ARJWright 2008-09-25 03:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 227178)
Alright, they showed a few slides of "design exploration" during the Maemo UI Vision session and explained the goal is a more document-centric design.
Document-centric?
Got notes for that term please?
The semantic (document) side of me has thoughts, and it could be good, could be bad depending on the context.
Thanks.

JoeF 2008-09-25 04:44
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I have been enjoying this discussion and trying to figure out where I land in it, being simply a user of the N800 not a programmer or software developer. I am happy with my N800 simply because it does most of the things I want to do with a computer when I am not at my desk. I can listen to music, watch a movie, check email, write email, play games, take notes, check discussion groups on line. My desktop computer does my heavy lifting. How much heavy lifting do I need on my NIT? Not a lot.
What do I want? Better, more polished software, a larger main memory so I don't have to clone the OS, a better camera or none at all, a built in network adapter so I can use it where there is internet but not wireless, longer battery life, and maybe some other stuff I haven't thought of. Just keep it cheap.
I look forward to using my N800 exactly like I am using it right now for years to come. Hopefully in that time someone will write an application that will make it possible to listen to audiobooks on the N800. Then I can park my Zire 31.
The N800 is not a phone.

Jerome 2008-09-25 05:48
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 227113)
It uses WiFi. My ISPs SIP server is sip.xs4all.nl, port 5060. Same for proxy. My ISP isn't blocking any ports for I can define which ports my ISP should block, and its only blocking incoming SMB/CIFS. Not SIP. And certainly nothing outgoing. In fact, they want me to use SIP, and I do with a POTS phone connected on my DSL modem. But I'd like to use my NIT as well. Again, with Gizmo and Fring it works, with the normal SIP client it doesn't.
I would need more details on your setup, especially this "with a POTS phone connected on my DSL modem" to give a meaningful answer. And, for the third time, please open another thread to discuss sip configuration.

ragnar 2008-09-25 06:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo (Post 227036)
Where did you get that crazy idea? Available to the community, yes, internally ...
All I can say is that the published release schedules for alpha and beta SDK seem currently rather valid to me.


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