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Re: Purism Librem Phone

[QUOTE=sulu;1552497]That would be quite a bummer, since the Mini doesn't seem to have HDMI. [1]
> What's Purisms take on that?

On NXP page:
"
This page contains information on a preproduction product. Specifications and information herein are subject to change without notice. "

> What do you think of the Dragonbox Pyra in comparison to the Librem 5?

First of I ever heard of that one and that itself should say something... Also you compare apples with oranges ;)

"Do you know what happened to the Librem 11 detachable? It's been announced for how long now? 2 years?"

I don't now I am not working on puri.sm only saying that there are many who has failed simply because the bigger companies eating them.

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by one_with_linux (Post 1552493)

Can we even make a compatibility layer to run sailfish apps on GNU/Linux? (No proprietary software in a chroot)

They are GNU/Linux. The problem is 1. Silica is proprietary (although you aren't technically forced to use it to create a Sailfish application if you don't want to) and 2. the architectures of the prebuilt applications don't match those of 99,999% of regular computers, so you wouldn't be able to run them either way.

Then, 3. why would you want to do so in the first place? The only 'killer app' I can think of that's missing on all other platforms and on desktop GNU/Linux is Pure Maps, but as far as I know, it isn't optimised for usage on anything other than a mobile device.

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552927)

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Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1552497)

That would be quite a bummer, since the Mini doesn't seem to have HDMI. [1]
> What's Purisms take on that?

On NXP page:
"
This page contains information on a preproduction product. Specifications and information herein are subject to change without notice. "

That doesn't mean that HDMI will eventually be included.
It's the only official document about the Mini I currently know and it says there's no HDMI.

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552927)

> What do you think of the Dragonbox Pyra in comparison to the Librem 5?

First of I ever heard of that one and that itself should say something... Also you compare apples with oranges ;)

What should that say?

As for apples and oranges:
Both devices are supposed to run GNU/Linux with a mainline kernel (e.g. Debian compatible), and have a GSM modem.
Plus, both have a hardware keyboard (Pyra) or at least I believe there is a reasonably realistic prospect of getting one (Librem 5 [1]).
Those are three very important criteria for me to finally replace my N900.
So if I finally get some fresh fruits after almost a decade of waiting, I certainly won't complain, that it's not all apples.

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1552927)

"Do you know what happened to the Librem 11 detachable? It's been announced for how long now? 2 years?"

I don't now I am not working on puri.sm

My bad! I was under the impression that you're affiliated to Purism in one way or another.

[1] https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100566

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1552934)

Then, 3. why would you want to do so in the first place? The only 'killer app' I can think of that's missing on all other platforms and on desktop GNU/Linux is Pure Maps, but as far as I know, it isn't optimised for usage on anything other than a mobile device.

There is a qtquickcontrols flatpak version of Pure Maps, so you can argue that its not really 'missing'

although as you say, its not really optimised for desktop usage

Re: Purism Librem Phone

I suppose most of the Maemo 5 FOSS library could be ported with up to date libs at least as a stopgap to get the app repositories populated with QT stuff designed for mobile use.
That would for example mean stuff like modrana for nav and well developed apps for just about every other category.
I am not sure how difficult FOSS android apps you find on f-Droid would be to port over to real gnu-linux, that repo is enough to do almost everything on my non-Google LineageOS tablet.

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1552964)

There is a qtquickcontrols flatpak version of Pure Maps, so you can argue that its not really 'missing'

although as you say, its not really optimised for desktop usage

no, not yet. will get to that optimization at some point hopefully. there is still lots of issues open regarding mobile.

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1552964)

There is a qtquickcontrols flatpak version of Pure Maps, so you can argue that its not really 'missing'

although as you say, its not really optimised for desktop usage

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Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1552977)

no, not yet. will get to that optimization at some point hopefully. there is still lots of issues open regarding mobile.

Cool! Thanks!

Re: Purism Librem Phone

Linux gamer talks about puri.sm new shop thingy:
(He is a little to much of a fanboy but still... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-gxmB90S20

Re: Purism Librem Phone

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Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1552944)

That doesn't mean that HDMI will eventually be included.
It's the only official document about the Mini I currently know and it says there's no HDMI.

What I mean is the documentation at NXP site should be taken with a big grain of salt since they probably not decided yet.

I would not be surprised if the iMX8 mini actually use same core as the big one but they just turn off some of the functionality?

However some said to me they will use USB3 for display? Not sure how and when this was posted. I always has thought as you that it will have micro HDMI contact but...

I am not sure what you mean about hw keyboard? AFAIK the librem5 will not have hwkeyboard?