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Joseph9560 2011-01-03 08:56
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
has anyone managed to run d4x in easy debian? It exits as soon as I add new download. On command line I get segmentation error. Is there any download manager with gui for maemo5?

avidscavenger 2011-01-04 00:04
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 909750)
My question was: does it work equally with wifi and phone data connections (=gprs)?
I'm afraid I don't use GPRS (or even have an account to test it with) but it's hard to see how that could make a difference. Something strange with the routing tables perhaps? Maybe some judicious route tweaking would help?

mightymidget 2011-01-04 00:41
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Please can someone help me as I'd love to get this running. Every time I go to install I get a message that says' Unable to install Easy Debian' ' application package missing libxmu6 (<=1.0.4-1).

ITried to find the missing package but cant seem to find it anywhere in the repo's (well, one that will install on the N900). I did try in a terminal but still failed. Think I probably need to add the correct repo or something but I dont know how.. :-(

Be greatful for some help as I'm still learning. Thank MM.

Joseph9560 2011-01-04 04:33
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
tick all repos, refresh repo, then
apt-get libxmu6
should do the job.

mightymidget 2011-01-04 12:37
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 911213)
tick all repos, refresh repo, then
apt-get libxmu6
should do the job.
Thanks for your reply. Think I'm doing this wrong. When you say tick all the repos do you mean in the app manager?

I've got all the extra, extra-testing, extra-devel enabled but Easy Debian's Installer fails with 'Unable to install, Application package missing : libxmu6 (<=1.0.4-1).

The only place I've been able to find this file is here:

http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fre...e/libx/libxmu/

However, I've been unable to add this repo using the Apps Manager lists, whats more the Maemo Repos page states that 'SDK repositories are meant to be used with apt-get only within the SDK environment'. :confused:

I've tried to install it using x-terminal (with your suggestion) but I'm not 100% sure how to add this repo to my available lists and if it can be installed this way as my command-line knowledge is not great.

The error I get is 'cant find package' so I've probably not added something correctly.

Be grateful for a line by line on how to get this package installed.

Hope someone can help. Cheers MM.

Joseph9560 2011-01-05 02:31
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
since you already found the location of package download armel one from the url you wrote. Copy the file to MyDocs folder, that is first place you see in default file manager with images, documents etc directory.

in xterm
cd /home/user/MyDocs
dpkg -i libxmu6*.deb

if there is permission denied etc error, then
sudo gainroot
before above commands.

Hope this helps.

mightymidget 2011-01-05 18:44
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 911888)
since you already found the location of package download armel one from the url you wrote. Copy the file to MyDocs folder, that is first place you see in default file manager with images, documents etc directory.

in xterm
cd /home/user/MyDocs
dpkg -i libxmu6*.deb

if there is permission denied etc error, then
sudo gainroot
before above commands.

Hope this helps.
Thanks Joseph, that did the trick. Easy debian is now installed and downloading the image.

Think I need to work on my basic command line knowledge ;)

Thanks again MM.

lq_sunshine 2011-01-08 11:40
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
HI,

does anybody know, how to increase the fontsize of LXDE?
When i use the Openbox Settings Manager, or appearance settings, nothing is changed :-(

qole 2011-01-08 16:11
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I wonder why Mighty Mouse wasn't able to install libxmu6 from the repos? If he was having problems there are probably others...

lq_sunshine: try editing this file in your home dir (when not running LXDE), change the font sizes, and see if it helps: .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml

lq_sunshine 2011-01-08 18:07
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
thank you @qole ,
i changed all font values, but
only the window titles are bigger now.
All other fonts are very small..

I have the latest easy debian (installed yesterday)

tpaixao 2011-01-16 23:00
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi,
I'm trying to install Easy Debian but HAM complains that a package is missing: libxmu6 (>=1.0.4-1). This happen with and without extras-devel enabled. apt-get also reports that this package has no instalation candidate.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance

EDIT: ok, I searched the thread and saw that I could install libxmu6 "by hand". But this is weird. apt really reports that that lib is unavailable.

qole 2011-01-16 23:57
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
According to maemo.org packages, libxmu6 should be in two of the official Nokia repositories, not in Extras or Extras-devel. I honestly don't know why people are starting to have problems with it. Have you upgraded to PR 1.3?

tpaixao 2011-01-17 01:39
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 921913)
According to maemo.org packages, libxmu6 should be in two of the official Nokia repositories, not in Extras or Extras-devel. I honestly don't know why people are starting to have problems with it. Have you upgraded to PR 1.3?
yes, I have PR1.3. It is weird that I can't find it...

leetnoob 2011-01-20 00:02
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi qole,

Easy debian is an astounding piece of work and is the reason I bought my n900 which arrived last week. Easy debian worked straight off the bat.

However I come to you with a problem but also a solution to the problem.

The fonts in easy debian suck! I've never worn glasses but felt that if I used easy debian with those fonts for any length of time, I soon would be.

I noticed that the fonts in the "beta" theme were the ones we needed, but on closer inspection it seems the "beta" theme is actually the digital nature theme of maemo and so is obviously missing things like scrollbars etc. so could never be used itself.

To cut a long story short, I've managed to combine the fonts of "beta" with the rest of the m/nightorange theme which has nice large scrollbars and tweaked the colours a bit as well.

Now I can use easy debian with nice lush maemo fonts which cause no eyestrain and make it the pleasure to use that it should be.

I'll post the instructions and theme here tomorrow, I'm posting from a PC now but will post from my n900 tomorrow to make it easier to attach files etc.

EDIT: see the post directly below this on how to install the theme and get those nice fonts.

leetnoob 2011-01-21 18:44
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
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Here's how to install that theme:

launch the easy debian root shell icon so you have root access in the debian environment terminal (dont launch the full easy debian installation). It's the easy debian icon with the curvy swirl.

confirm you have easy debian root access by typing the command

id

and making sure you see the word "root" in the response.

copy the attached mnon900.tar file into your normal maemo n900 MyDocs folder using the maemo file manager/whatever.

in the debian terminal window type the commands:

cd /usr/share/themes
tar -xvf /home/user/MyDocs/mnon900.tar

and that's it. the theme should now be installed.

type

exit

to leave the root environment.

You can now select the new "mnon900" theme from the debian theme manager when youre in the easy debian environment.

sulu 2011-01-22 10:47
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Does someone here have decent skills in object orientated C programming?

I had a look at the source code of lxpanel, specifically the code for the battery monitor. I know where the problem is and I think I know how to fix it - theoretically. But it's veeery long ago that I coded in C and object orientation isn't my field of expertise at all. So doing it on my own is far beyond my skills.

rebhana 2011-01-23 17:38
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetnoob (Post 924275)
Now I can use easy debian with nice lush maemo fonts which cause no eyestrain and make it the pleasure to use that it should be.
Sounds promising. Would love to see screenshots :rolleyes:

leetnoob 2011-01-24 02:52
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 926834)
Sounds promising. Would love to see screenshots :rolleyes:
Eh? I've uploaded the theme as an attachment with instructions 2 posts above your post, maybe you missed it. No need for screenshots. It's not "promising" , it's done.

bousch 2011-01-24 10:41
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
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Thanks leetnoob,

Here is a screenshot.

radical7dreamer 2011-01-25 19:29
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi everybody,
I had easy debian and it worked perfectly until I was trying to install a package from synaptic and my phone restarted. Since then I cannot run either the package manager or the desktop (freezes on the mouse + ctrl+backward background). I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no luck, even a backup restore. I figure I broke something in the file system, is there a magic command to clean my broken debian?? Thanks for your helping

sulu 2011-01-25 21:28
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by radical7dreamer (Post 928419)
Hi everybody,
I had easy debian and it worked perfectly until I was trying to install a package from synaptic and my phone restarted. Since then I cannot run either the package manager or the desktop (freezes on the mouse + ctrl+backward background).
Which package was it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by radical7dreamer (Post 928419)
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no luck, even a backup restore. I figure I broke something in the file system, is there a magic command to clean my broken debian?? Thanks for your helping
You could check it with fsck.
Make sure it is not mounted. Just to be sure run "Close Debian" in advance. Then run (adjust the path):
Code:
fsck /path/to/debian.image
Tip for the future: I always have a copy of my debian working image on my N900 from a moment of which I know it's ok. It takes awfully long to create it initially, but once created you can quite quickly update it with (again, adjust the pathes):
Code:
rsync debian.image debian.backup
or restore it:
Code:
rsync debian.backup debian.image
(@qole: It would be nice if the next image could have the mount point for /home/user/.config seperated from the /home/user/.config directory of maemo, maybe just a seperate subdirectory. This is the only place I messed up and that I could not recover easily with rsync. Having it seperated from maemo would make it easy to clean up: just delete the directory, without having to think about what is debian and what is maemo)

rebhana 2011-01-26 20:08
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by radical7dreamer (Post 928419)
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no luck, even a backup restore.
What have you done in your attempt to uninstall and reinstall? Was it not possible to start with a fresh Debian image?

WhiteWolf 2011-01-28 09:17
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I have a problem.

I had to flash the N900. Had a copy of "Easy Debian" custom. I need to install it again without having to download the image from the network.

How I can do?

Thanks

qole 2011-01-28 16:53
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
WhiteWolf, did you lose / erase your MyDocs directory? If not, your image should still be there, intact.

vkelim 2011-01-29 12:40
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
this is almost certainly a n00b question, but in the EasyDebian chroot environment, I can't change LC_CTYPE.

I want to change LC_CTYPE, because I use subversion to keep the file synced with my desktop/laptop machines, but some of those filenames use UTF8 encoding.

Just setting 'export LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8' works, but I can't execute the same command within a script!

For example, setting /root/.bashrc to a single line containing 'export LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8' doesn't work. Executing the .bashrc file from the command line (either with the execute bit set, or with 'sh') doesn't work either.

This really puzzles me, since throughout the web I can see examples where people have set LC_CTYPE from within a script such as .bashrc or .zshrc

mankir 2011-01-29 12:53
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
you can use this command to set all: localedef -i en_AU -f UTF-8 en_AU

Ele-Mental 2011-01-31 06:05
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi guys. Lil help needed here. I have been using ED for a while and decided to install a few apps through Synaptic pkg mngr. after i updated the catalogues searched a few things to see if it was there i then closed it without installing anything. BUT, when i went to go check in Maemo, my Rootfs suddenly only had 55meg left, from 92meg before opening Synaptic. And "apt-get clean" didnt help. Can any of you?

qole 2011-01-31 06:59
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Ele-Mental: Installing apps in Easy Debian has no impact on your Maemo rootfs. Everything is happening in the "virtual disk drive" image file in your MyDocs folder...

Ele-Mental 2011-01-31 07:04
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 932345)
Ele-Mental: Installing apps in Easy Debian has no impact on your Maemo rootfs. Everything is happening in the "virtual disk drive" image file in your MyDocs folder...
But thats the thing. I didnt install any apps. I just activated all the catalogs in synaptic, pressed reload, and watched as my rootfs space went down. No other apps were open at the time.

Ele-Mental 2011-01-31 08:27
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
@qole Does ED not touch you rootfs at all?

electroaudio 2011-01-31 10:17
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I have been playing with ED for a while now and it is a very fine system, THANKS!

But it is hard to use the mousepointer, a bluetoothmouse would ofcourse help, but not very practical while walking down the streeet...
Maybe a tiny trackball or especially a touchpad that could be laying ontop of the screen would make it more usable.
-But hey! there already is a touch sensitive layer there! ...
So, would it be possible to convert the touchscreen into a touchpad??

If not... Would it be possible to add a touchpadwindow, like vxkeyb?

mthmob 2011-01-31 20:20
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hey. i'm new to easy debian, but i've been toying with it for a few days, and i just managed to add Right mouse click while holding down Fn key, turns out to be rather simple, using xbindkeys + xdotool.

Anyways i wanted to know how i can do autoexec when starting lxde ?
I want to execute xbindkeys, when lxde starts up,

Hope someone can help me. Anyways, with right mouse click, dosbox windowed in lxde is pretty damn cool :)

mscion 2011-01-31 20:31
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 932815)
Hey. i'm new to easy debian, but i've been toying with it for a few days, and i just managed to add Right mouse click while holding down Fn key, turns out to be rather simple, using xbindkeys + xdotool.

Anyways i wanted to know how i can do autoexec when starting lxde ?
I want to execute xbindkeys, when lxde starts up,

Hope someone can help me. Anyways, with right mouse click, dosbox windowed in lxde is pretty damn cool :)
Hi, You can put the line

@xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc

in

/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart


For other useful information check the first entry in this thread.

sulu 2011-01-31 20:37
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Or put it in:
Code:
/etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh
or:
Code:
~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
How did you manage to avoid this?:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 925705)
I just tried xdotool on my laptop but unfortunately this is no option because multiple mouse button clicks block each other. So simulating one by executing another doesn't work.

mthmob 2011-01-31 21:33
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 932831)
How did you manage to avoid this?:

"I just tried xdotool on my laptop but unfortunately this is no option because multiple mouse button clicks block each other. So simulating one by executing another doesn't work."
simple.. add this in xbindkeys

"xdotool click 3"
m:0x80 + b:1 + release

since it waits with right click until release, theres no conflict...

sulu 2011-01-31 22:19
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
For my tests I had this in my .xbindkeysrc in a Debian Squeeze VM:
Code:
# specify a mouse button
"xdotool -click --clearmodifiers 3"
  Shift_L + b:1 + Release
But all I got was a non-working left click, without any right click action (e.g. context menu).

I'll try your example on the real device.

mthmob 2011-02-01 04:02
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 932907)
For my tests I had this in my .xbindkeysrc in a Debian Squeeze VM:
Code:
# specify a mouse button
"xdotool -click --clearmodifiers 3"
  Shift_L + b:1 + Release
But all I got was a non-working left click, without any right click action (e.g. context menu).

I'll try your example on the real device.
The xdotool command your using, dosent seem to work in my ED. But ive never tried debian squeeze VM. so dont know.

qole 2011-02-01 04:19
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Just a reminder, tap-and-hold should work as a right-click in GDK+ (Gnome) apps ... but dosbox and others probably would benefit from a working right-click solution that uses a keyboard modifier. So I would like to see a working solution here, too...

Ele-Mental 2011-02-01 06:24
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Does anyone know how to get to the rootfs folder Synaptic uses to to store the Repo pakage info. "apt-get clean" does not help. (i know how to use the "Thank" button) Any help is welcome.

sulu 2011-02-01 08:01
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 933086)
The xdotool command your using, dosent seem to work in my ED. But ive never tried debian squeeze VM. so dont know.
I first tried without --clearmodifier but that even worked less (I made some tests with starting programs in advance instead of emulating mouse clicks). But it might be that VirtualBox adds additional obstacles.

Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 933092)
Just a reminder, tap-and-hold should work as a right-click in GDK+ (Gnome) apps ... but dosbox and others probably would benefit from a working right-click solution that uses a keyboard modifier. So I would like to see a working solution here, too...
I'd be more interested in a working middle click since I'm pretty fine with the tap-and-hold variant. But once the basics are done changing the mouse button should be trivial.

What about my suggestion of a subdirectory for the ED home mount in the next image?


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