maemo.org - Talk - Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

I'd love to know what works for you. SMS works fine, but MMS just hangs.

Another question: is it SFOS or the Xperia that requires a reboot if you remove the sim while booted up? Also: anyone have problems booting while a microSD is in the tray? My Xperia will only give the white SONY screen and do nothing else if the microSD is in the tray. Could it be due to the formatting of the card? Even though it works if I insert after booting (but then the sim won't work, and I can't reboot...).

Data Access Point:

Connection Name: whatever you want
Access Point Name: epc.t-mobile.com
Protocol: Dual
Authentication: None

MMS Access Point:

Connection Name: whatever you want
Access Point Name: epc.t-mobile.com
Protocol: IPv6
Authentication: None
Proxy Address: Leave blank
Proxy Port: Leave blank
MMS message center: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

I keep it on 4G and manually select T-mobile under network selection.

These are the only settings that work reliably - every time. Every other APN, proxy, or configuration has worked only intermittently. This is flawless!

Edit: also, to address your other issues...

I had a Super Patriot 32GB microsd that behaved strangely in the phone, if I booted it with it, it would exhibit the same behavior and stay on the white Sony screen. If I inserted it while the phone was running, I could see it with lsblk, but I never could get any partition table to work on it. The phone hated that card. I swapped it for another 32GB Samsung card I had in a raspberry pi and it worked the first try. Not sure if it's because the card is dying, or what, but it simply would not function with it.

Also, I've popped a SIM in while the device is running and restarted ofono with "devel-su systemctl restart ofono.service" and it picked it up.

DrYak

2017-10-28 13:25

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfmar (Post 1537829)

Sailfish is a true multitasking system (I clearly hear Apple fanbois woohooing). Sailfish doesn't enforce memory/network/CPU/background limits, thus an app could actually waste 100% CPU cycles even in background.

Native Sailfish apps have to be well-behaved. Currently it's easy to spot a new app wasting resources for no reason... because most of native apps are actually well-behaved (thanks also to Qt/QML).

With the exception of old batteries (many hundreds of recharge cycles), if Sailfish wastes too many milliamperes then most probably you have to blame some Android app.

I confirm, in my past experience with a Jolla 1, Android has always been the most awefull power-hungry explanation of battery drop.

Worst offenders seemed to be online chat application.

I've mitigiated by :

Switching Facebook, Messenger and Skype, to Facebook Lite, Messenger Lite and Skype Lite (that last one might not be available on the Play Store in your territory, you might need to get it from apkmirror). Saddly no such thing as official WhatsApp Lite, yet.
in Settings -> Apps -> turn off background alert on any app that I don't explicitely need.
replace as many application with native apps (e.g: my sports tracker is MeeRun).
when not needed (e.g.: when I don't need to receive WhatsApp messages), shut down alien-dalvik (you can even add a toggle switch on the notification pane using a plugin from CoDeRus)

That has *tremendously* helped both battery life and memory/swap pressure.

I haven't installed enough (bovine manures) on the Xperia X to be affected by battery problems.

Heik	2017-10-29 13:13

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Can anyone tell where the bluetooth settings for paired devices are stored? Tried to search, but did not find.

The problem is my brother's phone to get paired with Nissan Qashqai. Had same problem with AquaFish. Somehow managed to pair (to enter car requested PIN 1234 to phone) when car bluetooth device was found as a new device. Now phone already has the car bt listed after the first trial pairing had failed and now does not show option to give PIN code.
Maybe if the current settings are deleted pairing can be done.

suicidal_orange

2017-10-29 13:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

If you enable Bluetooth the paired devices will appear in settings, long press on one to delete the pairing.

Heik	2017-10-29 13:56

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1537918)

If you enable Bluetooth the paired devices will appear in settings, long press on one to delete the pairing.

My bad.
It is not paired, but listed all the time as a nearby device. And cannot be removed from the list using long press.
And when trying to pair, it will be rejected by car bt, as incorrect (if any) PIN is given.
It was the same case with AquaFish, but with many trials I finally managed to pair, also yesterday when tested. It was managed when phone found the car bt while searching, not when it already was listed as nearby device.

mosen

2017-10-29 14:54

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Can confirm, i have the same issue with an unkown bt device i picked up while scanning for my pebble while in public.
That unkown MAC adress is always shown as nearby now.
Would be cool to know where to edit the entries on low level.

lantern

2017-10-29 16:48

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Code:

# ls -la /var/lib/bluetooth/YOUR-MAC/...

try deleting specific entry there

Heik	2017-10-29 17:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1537930)

Code:

# ls -la /var/lib/bluetooth/YOUR-MAC/...

try deleting specific entry there

How many times I looked those files there, but could not see the device names in there. Now I see, thanks.

mosen

2017-10-29 19:05

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1537930)

Code:

# ls -la /var/lib/bluetooth/YOUR-MAC/...

try deleting specific entry there

Bingo!

Code:

rm -R /var/lib/bluetooth/MY-MAC/QUESTIONABLE-MAC/

did it. Thank you @lantern.
EDIT: No TJC question as of yet, so i made one.

meet.vino

2017-10-30 08:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrYak (Post 1537888)

Switching Facebook, Messenger and Skype, to Facebook Lite, Messenger Lite and Skype Lite (that last one might not be available on the Play Store in your territory, you might need to get it from apkmirror). Saddly no such thing as official WhatsApp Lite, yet.
in Settings -> Apps -> turn off background alert on any app that I don't explicitely need.
replace as many application with native apps (e.g: my sports tracker is MeeRun).
when not needed (e.g.: when I don't need to receive WhatsApp messages), shut down alien-dalvik (you can even add a toggle switch on the notification pane using a plugin from CoDeRus)

That has *tremendously* helped both battery life and memory/swap pressure.

I haven't installed enough (bovine manures) on the Xperia X to be affected by battery problems.

Just wish FB had not blocked Mitakuluu!

pexi	2017-10-30 09:45

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Just have to express my satisfaction to the SFOX. It has surpassed my expectations and felt joy when today i installed my business e-banking Android software and it just worked.

It did not work in my rooted Nexus with Android.

Me love Saifish very many :)

lantern

2017-10-30 12:27

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Does XT9 auto-suggestion send anything to internet?

taixzo

2017-10-30 14:12

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1537955)

Does XT9 auto-suggestion send anything to internet?

I do not think so, given that it seems to give the same suggestions whether the phone is in airplane mode or not. Someone might want to check with a packet sniffer, though.

Bundyo

2017-10-31 07:12

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1537919)

I think most of the problem has to do with the very old pairing method of the Qashqai - I have the same problem with my +2 from the end of 2013. However I have no problem pairing with the new X-Trail for instance.

eson	2017-10-31 11:12

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2.1.3.7 is available. :)

gaelic

2017-10-31 11:33

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by eson (Post 1537986)

2.1.3.7 is available. :)

Changes?

Hopefully Tethering is working :)

Maybe also the volume settings are fixed.

acrux

2017-10-31 11:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaelic (Post 1537988)

Changes?

Hopefully Tethering is working :)

Maybe also the volume settings are fixed.

No - unfortunately not - still a workaround is offered for wireless hotspot.

Volume settings - not sure yet - it seems that it was not mentioned in changelog...
Edit: Still very loud notifications...

See here: https://together.jolla.com/question/...-213-kymijoki/

BluesLee

2017-10-31 12:46

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Camera focus fix would be most appreciated feature.

taixzo

2017-10-31 13:54

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Quote:

Blueborne fixed (on all Sailfish devices).

About time!

eson	2017-10-31 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1537995)

Camera focus fix would be most appreciated feature.

Fixed! +10

BluesLee

2017-10-31 15:19

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by eson (Post 1538006)

Fixed! +10

In the meantime i did an OTA to 2.1.3.7 but i can't confirm that the issue is fixed. Manual focussing still doesn't work properly as shown in the YouTube video of llelectronics. I don't see any hints in the changelog that it is fixed.

taixzo

2017-10-31 15:52

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How do you update to 2.1.3.7? I'm on 2.1.3.5, but if I check for system updates it shows "Up to dates."

mosen

2017-10-31 16:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538016)

How do you update to 2.1.3.7? I'm on 2.1.3.5, but if I check for system updates it shows "Up to dates."

official instructions by Jolla for that case, excerpt from here:

Code:

devel-su              ## Use your SSH password here

ssu release 2.1.3.7   ## The next STOP RELEASE

version --dup

EDIT, i missed the disclaimer:
Only do unreleased or early access updates if you are prepared for the worst. Meaning your device could become unusable as your daily driver, require a recovery session, a full reflash or cause a timeloop of you wishing to not have destroid your precious device out of pure curiousity.

mosen

2017-10-31 16:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1538014)

In the meantime i did an OTA to 2.1.3.7 but i can't confirm that the issue is fixed. Manual focussing still doesn't work properly as shown in the YouTube video of leznek. I don't see any hints in the changelog that it is fixed.

Yes, can confirm to not confirm.

Also the dedicated camera button does only work if the camera app is already started. And despite mention in the blogpost, focus with camerabutton does not work for me.

lancewex

2017-10-31 16:47

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538016)

How do you update to 2.1.3.7? I'm on 2.1.3.5, but if I check for system updates it shows "Up to dates."

Me too. Maybe they stagger the updates so as to not overwhelm server.

KylliOrvokki

2017-10-31 16:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancewex (Post 1538019)

Me too. Maybe they stagger the updates so as to not overwhelm server.

It's "Early Access" release.

To get "Early Access" updates follow instructions:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...shos-releases/

eson	2017-10-31 20:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1538014)

I don't see any hints in the changelog that it is fixed.

I do! ;) Go to last revision...
https://together.jolla.com/questions/172002/revisions/

Quote:

Issues reported by the community at together.jolla.com and fixed in this update

kinggo

2017-10-31 21:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1537917)

hmmmmmm.......... never had any issues with BT and J1 in my wifes 2009 qashqai

BluesLee

2017-10-31 21:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by eson (Post 1538030)

I do! ;) Go to last revision...
https://together.jolla.com/questions/172002/revisions/

https://together.jolla.com/question/...sony-xperia-x/ is about the front camera not the main (back) camera.

Just put several things in front of you, focus manually on one, take a shot and zoom into the image.

eson	2017-11-01 04:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1538033)

https://together.jolla.com/question/...sony-xperia-x/ is about the front camera not the main (back) camera.

Ok sorry, I was a bit to tired last night.

Ahti30708

2017-11-01 05:12

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I just got the Update available message on my Community release last night so I'm now on Kymijoki 2.1.3.7 (and yes, Launcher combined patches is OK). - All the phones on my Jolla account are EA, not just the Jolla 1 so I now have three devices running Kymijoki.

I haven't flashed the Official firmware because I'd like to try if my phone is already registered for it and I just need to change the repositories (it should be much simpler than converting Ubuntu to Debian on PC). Being accepted for Early Access is promising.

So, if anyone would post (or pm me if you think the information is too sensitive) the output of

ssu repos

* * *

Background: I flashed m4r0v3r's image (thanks!) on Sept. 29th (I ran out of disk space on my own project), have since done the vendor -> oem bit and flashed the v13 Sony bits, all on Linux. The phone is from Verkkokauppa.com, Pirkkala, Finland, weekly special 269 e.

jenix

2017-11-01 08:37

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahti30708 (Post 1538036)

So, if anyone would post (or pm me if you think the information is too sensitive) the output of

ssu repos

* * *

Code:

Enabled repositories (global): 

 - adaptation0    ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/jolla-hw/adaptation-qualcomm-f5121/armv7hl/

 - adaptation1    ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/jolla-hw/adaptation-qualcomm-f5121-dhd/armv7hl/

 - aliendalvik    ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/aliendalvik/f5121/

 - apps           ... https://releases.jolla.com/jolla-apps/2.1.3.7/armv7hl/

 - customer-jolla ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/features/2.1.3.7/customers/jolla/armv7hl/

 - hotfixes       ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/hotfixes/armv7hl/

 - jolla          ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/jolla/armv7hl/

 - sailfish-eas   ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/features/2.1.3.7/sailfish-eas/armv7hl/?version=2.1.3.7

 - xt9            ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/features/2.1.3.7/xt9/armv7hl/



Enabled repositories (user): 

 - mer-tools          ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.7/mer-tools/builds/armv7hl/packages/

(some openrepos)

 - store              ... https://store-repository.jolla.com/f5121/armv7hl/?version=2.1.3.7



Disabled repositories (global, might be overridden by user config): 



Disabled repositories (user): 

 - home ... https://download.jollamobile.com/home:/honeybadger/latest_armv7hl/

I suspect the access to the proprietary apps repos (aliendalvik & xt9) are restricted / allowed based on your Jolla Account (but didn't test that).

I added the mer-tools repo manually to receive sudo (for WiFi switching). Also, does someone knows what the disabled "home" repo is supposed to be?

Heik	2017-11-01 15:40

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1537917)

Problem solved:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...ria-bluetooth/

While connecting to car bt...

Quote:

I used command line

Code:

devel-su hcitool cc MAC-address

now my phone asks the pin code and pairing was done!

You have to enter the MAC of the cars BT system. You can get it via

Code:

devel-su hcitool scan

Maybe you need to remove car bt MAC address from /var/lib/bluetooth/"MAC_address_XperiaX"/ if you have already tried to pair.

TMavica

2017-11-02 09:47

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Whats is the most reliable command to enable double tap wakeup and lpm mode?

Breeze5

2017-11-02 16:53

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

So not working on Sony Xperia X Performance or on Compact?
So i should buy the "regular" Xperia X?
Cheers

suicidal_orange

2017-11-02 18:35

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Regular X works, the X dual sim also works with a couple of tweaks.

The Compact should have a community build soon and you can probably buy the official X version and use the paid features with it.

You're the first person I've seen mention the Performance and it's a completely different chipset so probably best to avoid it for now...

Breeze5

2017-11-02 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1538086)

Thanks!
Ok, will buy a regular X single SIM (F5121) to make it easier =)
Cheers

Dave999

2017-11-02 20:46

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Why no OTA updates?

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