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Good question.

FYI, this is what the Hildon Foundation thingy was about, but apparently negotiations from previous HiFo secretary with Nokia never beared fruit in a contract. It seems we will have to start conversation with Nokia all over again. But that's not a topic for this thread.

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It's also an excellent troll bait. Locking the thread will release them into the wild.

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Chances are a new thread of the same topic would open back up, seeing as how that's what happened last time AND there's enough interest to keep this thread going strong over all this time.

I, for one, am still interested to see community discussions about this as things unfold. We still haven't gotten answers on a lot of details that weren't covered under all of this? For example: Where does this put the old Trolltech acquisition (KDE/QT/etc)?

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Only narrow minded, scared of reality people like to close free wheelin threads.

As I said before, NOKIA will hit $10 by spring.

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Yes, that's quite possible.
When the company has got rid of the WP poison there's certainly a fresh way up opening :D

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Now here is a connundrum. Did they get rid of MS poison or their own poison, I.e, devices and services branch poison.

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You should apply for a job at Microsoft, you'd be good at wiping Elop's arse

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Nokia going above $6!!!....now $6.46��.

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That's nice really, it looks like I might be going to green in what, maybe another year or so... :D :D

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Interesting piece on Android development within Nokia...


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...oofinance&_r=0

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Oh my...moving beyond $6.6

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Oh my....it crossed $6.7!!! Yay Noki

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Still a far cry from being a deal. Remember when it was 8 bucks a pop? That's what... 14 months ago? Nice bounce back, not one that will be sustained.

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Very true. I am curios also how sustainable it is.

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I am really curious if this was just a ploy to have Microsoft pony up the money, or serious attempt by Nokia to enter Android market.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_androi...-news-6821.php

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So, Elop's dirty work is finally over:
http://www.gsmarena.com/stephen_elop...-news-6823.php

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He certainly earned it for Microsoft.. makes sense that they'd cover 70% of his pay. He was never on Nokia's side anyway. Right?

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I'm not sure about that, since it seems that the board is still favoring him, and Risto Siilasmaa went as far as publically covering up the details in the change of his manager contract.
It looks to me like the whole thing really was rigged from the start so that Nokia would eventually separate from the handset business. In ensuring that mr. E just carried on with the orders from above.

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Who's orders though? Ballmer won't be CEO of Microsoft any longer - that's not exactly a reward. Elop is getting a divorce, seems like his personal relationship paid the price. Nokia? Why would the board do that to themselves?

So again, I have to ask. Who's orders did Elop follow?

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Orders from the board. They knew they lost the battle and it was time to get good money and do another gig. If that is true, we have a genius board

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lumiaman....

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Naw. The plan seemed too coherent.

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For that amount of pay out divorce is worth it...I am sure he was shagging some cute Finn on the side...

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Windows will disappear in 5 years.
Game over for microsoft.

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they very well may. the tech world is extremely cut throat. Look at BB, NOKIA....there is much fresh blood yet to be spilled..

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Nokia is now close to $7.30. I think it will hit $10 by spring as I predicted.

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Sorry but no, Microsoft still has alot of cash to make sure Linux don't success.

And now when Microsoft has alot of hw patent via Nokia they will start patent trolling:

Jolla
Canonical
Apple
Google

and also they will buy a big ARM SoC provider or make sure NVidia is not supporting Linux to much...

Just wait and see...

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After releasing a Windows 8.1 RT tablet, doubtful.

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Linux isn't a success already? Wow, I didn't realise that. Desktop sales are contracting rapidly, it's a good job for Microsoft there isn't a successful Linux based mobile platform or else they'd really be on a sticky wicket.


I understood NOKIA retained the patents.
Apple already pays NOKIA licensing fees.
Microsoft have been blustering for years about non-specific patents Linux supposedly breaches and Mark Shuttleworth has challenged them to put up or shut up. Maybe a well publicised spat between Microsoft and Canonical will bring the superiority of Ubuntu on the desktop to the attention of Joe Bloggs never mind on mobiles.


Within the last few weeks (as a result of Steam OS being announced) NVidia have announced they'll offer technical advice to the developers of the Nouveau drivers. I'm sure most FOSS supporters would prefer that approach.

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I'd say that is something they have at least tried for some time but I see no real success in it yet.


MS has only licensed the patents, this means they have right to use them without facing litigation from Nokia.
If some company is going to do the patent trolling, it is the owner of the patents, namely Nokia.


That is of course possible but I do not really see chip fabbing as core competence for MS. It is fairly sure if they did that they would lose a lot of money.

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It's highly doubtful I could answer for (or like) Mikecomputing, but as it stands Linux is a success but it's not an universal success. Servers, embedded systems... it's tops. Mobile and desktop, too many aborted attempts and not enough push into the mainstream - this is ignoring the entire argument that Android is Linux. Include Android... mobile is also a success.

But as far as I stand, Linux is a success almost universally.

Eroding desktop sales have not swayed the ever-stated "year of Linux desktop" mantra that's now never really going to ever come.

Android? (now I'm playing devil's advocate)

I bet Richard Stallman has a sign that says Nvidia Eats Babies somewhere. I know he dislikes ATI too.

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I will declare Linux a success the day I walk in to PC World and buy a laptop with Linux pre-installed off the shelf.

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Now that does not help when Microsoft STILL has the money to buy the full specifications or even HW companys....

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Maybe I should have added a </SARCASM> tag ;). I know it's the lowest form of wit but I do so enjoy it.

Hopefully, now Cyanogenmod is a company I can have Android without having to have Google's 'services'.

I bought a Huawei Y300 as a cheap stop gap until Ubuntu, Tizen and Jolla hit the market. Two days ago it was announced there is now a custom ROM for it. I just need some free time to have a go at installing it. The phone was so inexpensive I wont lose any sleep if i brick it either.

I'm pretty chuffed about it because I feel like Google are harrassing me; my phone keeps notifying me there are updates for Google's 'services' and asking my permission to install them. I don't want to grant the permission so it just keeps notifying me over and over and over again. I couldn't uninstall the 'services' and I couldn't make Google f**k off either. Now maybe I can.

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@Switch

I was going to play the ... what really ... <sarcasm/extra sarcasm> tag.

:-)

@Pichlo

I just noticed PC World selling Chrome books, glad to see them selling a Linux based OS at last.

rgds

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Chromebook doesn't count. Netbooks are good for emailing or uploading my CV, but not for writing it in the first place.

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@Pichlo

You set the rules, perhaps with Google Drive it might be possible to create a CV?

I dunno, what do you think?

rgds

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Ah well.. now you're splitting hairs and splitting what's left of those hairs to make rules that fit the outcome you want instead of the challenge you set out to prove in the first place. I would argue that the Chromebooks are competing directly with Windows laptops. They might not be there yet--but they're competing and they easily meet your original criteria. Available terminal to Linux and all.

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Actually, I'm not. I am merely venting my frustration. I just recently bought a new laptop (a proper one, not a netbook!) and discovered to my surprise and dismay that the same HW spec with Windows comes out cheaper*) than without. In other words, Microsoft Tax™ is negative!

*) Not from the same seller.

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Hellooo haters. Nokia made profit, and sales increased by 20%!! Go Noki!!!!