Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

okay here's what ham does over apt / fapman:
It does the reboot properly after the upgrade
It locks the device into flight mode while updating
It turns off most system processes and the desktop to avoid conflicts when deploying the update
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It simply does a System upgrade in a safe way, whilst apt and fapman run it in a way which is suited for application upgrades but not exactly for system upgrades which possibly flash camera firmware or do similar risky tasks.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Indeed it seems this has been answered, nevertheless: Testing is "bleeding edge" compared to Stable that may and actually will have some bits - like nicocam - missing as they aren't considered stable yet.
Basically S is always like an older version of T, for now S is based on CSSU 16.8 with some problematic things omitted, while in Tmaemo1 same things we tried to get them fixed, eventually those fixes will propagate to S.

/j

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

having updated using fam yesterday and seeing no problems on my n900 i must ask , should i expect any problems ? taking joerg_rw posts onboard i will in future use ham but having used fam this time am a bit worried something may go wrong ?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Thanks, it is *exactly* what I asked about. Sorry if other posts sounded rude, but sometimes, even non-coders, "dumb" users require strictly "rationale" answer, not only depending on trust to answering ones (despite fact, that about such matters, I trust CSSU developers as a whole - and joerg_rw as individual - fully). Especially point 3 (turning of system processes) seems important IMO.

So again, thanks for explaining, and - of course - I'll proceed with HAM on next update.

Peace

/Estel

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Updated through HAM, left the phone, some minutes later: I had to enter lockcode and PIN then it was booted in CSSU-T. Worked as it should

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

second that :)

is there any changelog?

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Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I guess merlin1991 will update the changelog shortly (or maybe even MohammadAG will do), for now there's MohammadAG's announcement post as linked above.

BTW even when installation of the certman stuff somehow fails there's no impending doom in that, it's a mere minor display_info issue, most users won't ever notice the difference.

Doom pending in using fapman or apt to do the update is unclear, seems both are more prone to mess with package management state of some packages, so you might more likely run into missing or wrong-version pkgs on next update - though all that is anecdotal. Fact is it's simply not supported, tested, or otherwise encouraged by CSSU team, and for sure doesn't help to improve the quality of Testing releases, unless you actually analyze what exactly your acme appmanager does and if it's to be considered safe so it can get included to officially supported methods for update. For this to do you first need to understand what HAM does, so you can compare and evaluate ;-)

cheers
jOERG

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Thanks for info!

joerg_rw wrote that we need more testers before including into CSSU: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=4239

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Updated through HAM, left the phone, some minutes later: I had to enter PIN then it was booted in CSSU-T. Worked as it should. Thanks for all the work you've put into this, guys. It's very much appreciated.