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Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389298)

Overall

+ Feels solid
+ Great screen
+ Good sound quality from speakers/phone
+ Pretty fast camera
+ Good keyboard
+ USB charging/sync
+ Customizable desktop
+ Fast GPS lock
+ Nice Task Switching
+ Very nice OS

- Scrolling anywhere is like a bunch of mini seizures, really close together. In other words, garbage. Why the hell is this not perfectly smooth like the iPhone? It's the same hardware.
- Missing features that make you go WTF: no playlists, no searching email.
- WTF do you sync with...you get OVI links from the factory yet you try ovi suite and you get "device not supported". Typical Nokia garbage.
- Desktop widgets are cool but take facebook and news...you get 2-3 lines that keep scrolling and no way to make the widget larger. Completely useless.
- Music player widget is great but does not work with A2DP. Why?
- RSS reader is slow as hell to update (wifi or not). Scrolling is painfull at best.
- Transitions in the OS are nice but they often turn choppy and fail altogether. If you want to use transitions see that 2 year old device...what was it again...oh yeah.
- Try playing music and going online at the same time. The choppy scrolling gets even worse. Can I still scroll in the browser? Yeah. Is it painful as hell? Yeah.

Browser:

+ Pages load fast considering everything it's loading.
- Scrolling through bookmarks is slow as hell. Why?
- Scrolling through pages you get the checkered pattern VERY often. Sometimes you sit there for 3-5 seconds waiting for the scroll to catch up. WTF?
- Sometimes the pages get messed up with previous pages. Half the page would be the current page, half the previous page. You have to either reload the page or scroll over the messed up area to refresh it. WTF?
- Clicking back brings up this nifty history view. Nice. Now I have to factor in 5-10 seconds every time I want to click back? Have a history button and have the back button do just that: TAKE YOU BACK. No, I don't want to press backspace.
- Flash...yeah it does flash and youtube videos. If you feel like waiting 20 seconds for the video to catch up to the audio every time you move the page while playing the video then this device is for you.

Conclusion

I could go on and on but in a few words: THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. I like it for what it can do but it doesn't do anything better than other phones out there. The experience is still painful. All the fragmented scrolling and painfull transitions make you feel like you're asking the device to do too much. Over-planned features are everywhere and yet not fully implemented (widgets, what widgets?). Basic functions are missing.

Where are the apps? WTF do you sync with? Why isn't there a central support page for this phone..etc.etc. I don't think Nokia has their stuff together and doubt they ever will. For me, this was Nokia's last chance to continue earning my business after all the garbage I bought from them over the years. Let's see how it pans out with some firmware updates but I am starting to get the feeling we're all wasting our time.

I agree. The user experience is just not there but a fight with actually nonexisting possibilities and sluggish, hampered apps. Technology is just not managed. Sorry to say, iPhone 3G S is in touch and usage in a totally different dimension. Check in out in you shop as I did with some real touch demo with a shop keeper. No, I'm not any sales person, just a current regular user of Nokia 9500 that just received a wakeup call in connecting people - time to say goodbye

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 389427)

I never use playlists. Won't bother me one bit. Does it have the ability to play music based on info gathered from ID3 tags? Like play all music in a specific genre? That and a really good directory structure is all I need.

By the way, how much Nokia pays for you for your comments here? Mine just went.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 397254)

So apart from these garbage/perfect posts...if you guys tested the phones let me ask you:

1. How did you miss all the bugs?
2. Have you reported some of these bugs and are they being worked on?

Sorry, but a media player app not remembering shuffle settings after you select a different song from the playlist tells me that nobody even used the media player app before the phone was released.

You are making some really ridiculous assumptions there sport.

1. who says all the bugs were missed? see #2
2. yes bugs have been reported and are being worked on

I guess you missed the news about 1 firmware update since the 300 phones issued and another coming soon. Bugs aren't fixed overnight, but to assume the crew is not working on them is naive.

But then, I get the feeling you're not too concerned with that process, and have another agenda altogether.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 412343)

Is this the first phone made in Korea for Nokia? That factory must be ran pretty badly. Nokia's have always been known for rock solid quality (well, the ones made in Finland)..

I agree - going away from Finland might after all not make Nokia to be the most profitable mobile company. As you may know, Nokia is nowadays outsourcing all (production & customers :) to some cheaper (more profitable) coutries than the "expensive Finland". So, there is a price tag for this too, nothing really comes for free!

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by timomaemo (Post 415712)

time to say goodbye

Adios! Fun while it lasted.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by NotTheMessiah (Post 415550)

This thread should be closed. I think its been pretty well established the N900 doesnt suck, its just some bad units manage to make their way out the factory. To all those with issues like rebooting and poor performance, just go exchange it and get one that works.

Dear Messiah,
My humble wish is that let the people speak - We do not crusify Jesus but just exchange opinions about Judas. Therefore "This thread should be closed" is not the most effective argument in this particular state of the time. As the captain of Titanic said, "Let the band play as long as they still can have fun!" Also a point of practical concern: If your advice would be followed, all Nokia N900 would be returned - a mess compared to Titanic, or how do you feel?

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

I can only say one thing about this phone... It is the best phone i ever laid my hands on... And thats after i have had Iphone 3g, HTC Touch Diamond, Nokia N95(beats the first iphone.. lol), and various older ones. I have also tried Alot of the newer touch phones available on the market today, since i had to make an impression on what to get next.. after i tried N900.. i didn't sleep until i got it.

Sure there are features missing atm.. and a few noticeable bugs around... but this being an open source OS and the n900 only being out officially for a couple of weeks, i think we can expect alot of progress within a few months and alot of great additions already...

Checking out whats already available for download in extras, testing and devel... its safe to say that in 6 months, available apps for the n900 will be overwhelming..

Even the battery surprised me, the only thing i found draining the battery fast was Wi-Fi.. and that can be fixed by changing the signal strength from 100mW to 10mW.. and you still get the same from your home Wi-Fi.

And anyone claiming the n900 is slow and sluggish.. they got a bad unit or need glasses.. mine runs smoother then anything i've seen before... yeah i've seen the crappy iphone 3gs (that dosen't have a physical keyboard, no multitasking, crappy camera and no flash, no customizeable UI, dosen't support widgets or no open developement, no removeable battery) Its just an ipod touch with phone functionality.. nothing more.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

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Originally Posted by timomaemo (Post 415742)

Ok, this is fair comment and i wont argue with you about that.

However, what is annoying me is that some people clearly have a defective unit, yet are NOT exchanging it for one that works and are making the assumption that their faulty unit's terrible performance/stability is the typical N900 experience.

If you're device does not operate properly. ie poor performance, crashing, rebooting, scrolling is horrible, etc then SWAP IT FOR A NEW ONE!! It's simple enough, if its not working properly exchange the bloody thing.

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.

I don't even think some of these trolls have devices, just agendas. But I entertain them, too. Trolls gotta eat, too. Here's a sandbag sandwich, ya hoser!