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rfa 2017-07-01 05:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529930)
What exactly is officially official?

Official phone model etc, from Jolla, rather than guessing from the community.

Not really impressed about needing to purchase the operating system - but I've just purchased the phone.

If anyone in Sydney is looking for a brand new, in box, from retailer, jb Macquarie park has two more :)

rinigus 2017-07-01 10:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
In my mind, this project is making a great progress and has an important impact. I am happy that Jolla does not get into distribution of devices. By picking up a device with the global availability, they nor us have to face logistical challenges with getting the devices.

Its also a 64-bit device. I don't know what's the current status of 64-bit devices now among ported devices, but getting SFOS ported to this architecture is a major success and we should not underestimate it. When done, it should open many current devices for all of us through the ports.

I do wonder if the port for Xperia X would be made available as a community port image / sources as well. That would allow for curious user to test SFOS before getting full version of it. If not, porters would probably know or would get help to get SFOS running on X Compact and other variants.

As for the pure ports, if you don't need Android stack, the current main problem is the absence of text prediction (jolla-xt9 is proprietary). So, would be great to get someone to work on it and get open-source solution for text predictions. Port from Ubuntu Touch, for example?

I was curious to find out that its Jolla which is porting Alien Dalvik. I thought that it was a service/product that they were buying in.

As for having to buy extra OS on the phone which came with one - that reminds me of the Windows tax. Don't think that we should blame Jolla for it (I don't remember Debian/RedHat to be cursed for Windows tax either). Let's consider the current solution as the best we can get at present with the global availability of the phones. Its much better than to smuggle phones from India without proper certification.

Feathers McGraw 2017-07-01 12:14

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1529964)
As for the pure ports, if you don't need Android stack, the current main problem is the absence of text prediction (jolla-xt9 is proprietary). So, would be great to get someone to work on it and get open-source solution for text predictions. Port from Ubuntu Touch, for example?

Check out OKboard if you haven't already - continuous input /predictive keyboard for Sailfish that is fully open. I can't remember whether it does predictions for normal typing (I think it currently uses xt9 for that) but it clearly could, because it does its own predictions for continuous input. That's something open versions of Android are missing BTW - if you want CI on Android you have to use something like Swype or Swiftkey.

Feathers McGraw 2017-07-01 12:16

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Also, this might be useful for people planning to buy an Xperia X (price tracking on Amazon):

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Sony-...uct/B01ECV0Y58

yanyan 2017-07-01 14:22

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Is there a possibility to have a fully functionnal SFOS on the Xperia SP ?

lantern 2017-07-01 14:28

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
no.........

chenliangchen 2017-07-01 14:49

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1529968)
Also, this might be useful for people planning to buy an Xperia X (price tracking on Amazon):

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Sony-...uct/B01ECV0Y58

Thanks for the info. Once the price goes even lower I want to buy 3, one for use, one for back up and (pink) one for my lady to opt-out from iphone (very unlikely though) :D

meet.vino 2017-07-01 18:06

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1529964)
...By picking up a device with the global availability, they nor us have to face logistical challenges with getting the devices. ..

Really?!!! Global AVAILABILITY??? What a joke!!

meet.vino 2017-07-01 18:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by rfa (Post 1529956)
If anyone in Sydney is looking for a brand new, in box, from retailer, jb Macquarie park has two more :)

Afraid not!! I checked on their site.

kinggo 2017-07-01 18:36

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1529964)
In my mind, this project is making a great progress and has an important impact. I am happy that Jolla does not get into distribution of devices. By picking up a device with the global availability, they nor us have to face logistical challenges with getting the devices.

which brings up the question about warranty. What if phone needs to go to the service and sailfish is flashed on it and there's no way to go back to android?


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