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This means the price remains the same in EU, as initially announced, if I am correct.

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yes, only slight increase in US and some other parts of the world to 699 $ iirc.

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I ordered on 31/08, entered my VAT-id, and didn't have to pay VAT (my business card was charged 556€).

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Hi Chen,

Just a question, do you know how the LineageOS build for the Pro1 is progressing? Will it incorporate all of the neat alterations you are making to Android, like landscape mode, advanced HW-keyboard support, etc.? :)

The reason for my asking is because I'd like to get rid of all the Google stuff (meaning Google Services Framework/Google Mobile Services/the entire Play Store framework) if at all possible before installing apps and using the phone. At this moment I'm using a de-Googlefied Nexus5X, running LineageOS with MicroG and just the F-Droid installed for my app needs, combined with Yalp Store in case I do need any Play-store only apps (such as my banking app).

Do you think this use-case is possible with the Pro1 as well?

Thanks for your time and response, and good luck with all the hard work you guys are putting in to make the September release possible!

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I asked about this not too long ago but no one answered me

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the total will be 881.12 USD (7923.53 NOK) according to the customs people.

this includes 25 USD for shipping + 25% VAT + handling fee ...

https://abload.de/img/2019-09-0519.48.07wwwr9k72.png


:D

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@electristan - don't worry... Norway is safe... We won't attack ;)

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Couple stories were published online stating that pre orders will be filled mid September and launch in October
Really wish Chen would provide a ship date. He keeps saying mid September like it's months away but it's only next week

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Couple stories were published online stating that pre orders will be filled mid September and launch in October
Really wish Chen would provide a ship date. He keeps saying mid September like it's months away but it's only next week

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well, you should be able to pay without VAT and then pay your local VAT.

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Truncated version because techradar is dogshit:

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"Finally has a release date and price" But nothing has changed for weeks or months now. Release date is still "Mid-September" and price also the same. So nothing new for us, but good thing is that media is giving some promotion for the Pro1.

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New newsletter is out too, pre-ordered phones are shipping MID SEPTEMBER!

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And there's a new short video (in German) among the press stuff already: https://video.golem.de/handy/23425/f...-hands-on.html

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As a port of LineageOS is a community effort (just as SailfishOS or anything else but the stock Android), presumably he would have to look that up, too.
I would rather let Chen do his work (getting mass production up and running) and search for any LineageOS porting efforts by myself. I have not heard of any, but have not really searched for them.
And please report your findings (even if none) here.

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Preorder and public release dates also confirmed in the newsletter, along with a new award at the IFA :

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Thanks a lot!
That tool is genius! Never seen that, should probably have thought of searching for it.

That price is then UK VAT + Norwegian VAT, I was under the impression we only have to pay VAT in one country?

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Sent them an email asking about it now, hoping for VAT-refund. :)

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What I can confirm is that there are 2 senior developers has been working on Lineage OS since a while ago. And they've made some great progress. (All the credit goes to them)

They are awaiting for the official release and can move the porting project into the next stage I believe.

That's as far as I know, and again, it's a great work of Lineage community.

PS: When I tried to flash SFOS initial release onto Pro1 I need to flash a custom TWRP, which is I believe also from Lineage OS devs. :)

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A thoroughly positive review of the F(x)tec Pro1 as part of golem.de's IFA 2019 coverage: page 1 (Google translation) & page 2 (translation)

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@all, please do not feed trolls.
Seriously.
Never, no matter with what.

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What about cases and screen protectors? Will it bring any? Will it be easy to achieve?

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I seem to remember that toll.no have their own import calculator too. I have been using it a few times when I was living in Norway.

Overall, I remember that the fees were quite significant, probably manageable with the median salary in Norway, but tougher for someone with only a French salary. :D Anyway, the amounts depending on product types are all well explained on the website.

Also, multiple times, I noticed that web stores did not offer to buy at the price excl. the EU VAT when shipping to Norway, which is wrong. And the Norwegian fees were added on top of that. I had to contact the web stores after delivery to ask for a partial refund, which they sometimes agreed to do, but was still losing a bit because the Norwegian fees I paid were calculated on the full price including VAT.

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They wrote they will provide a "Hard case" but as far as I know, no one saw it except F(x)tec.

The screen is another thing.
The display is the same what was also used in Elephone U Pro, so screen protectors are ready to buy if you search for that model.

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Very good summery, it can be clunky to get items imposed to Norway for sure.

The tool i used was from toll.no forgot to link it so thank :)

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The screen protectors that are being sold on ebay are curved?

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I got an email back from Fxtec support, apparently I wasn't charged VAT on the purchase, hopefully that's true for all Norwegian residents.

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Ah, did not know that. Since FxTec are making the Android modifications themselves (that I am aware of, at least) I thought maybe they would do so for LineageOS as well.

I agree :)

Thanks for taking the time to respond Chen, good to know! I guess I'll just wait until after the release and see when LineageOS comes to the Pro1, and use Sailfish or some other OS on it until then.

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Not all of them are.

I ordered this one, as it seems to provide full coverage.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Schutzfo...z/162912021991

Hopefully it will work.

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It seems not a tempered glass screen protected but i believe it'll fit
I ordered this one:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/32851...29e8b90aXqKquM

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I have ordered this one for example. It is curved, but soft material.
It should be okay for a while...

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"soft nano-explosion-proof membrane" :D :D

So if you'd ever get caught in an explosion, your Pro1 will survive... Or at least the screen protector ;)

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Really feel bad I'm not buying this device right now.. Maybe in a few months or next iteration.

In regards to screen protector you might also consider getting "Liquid Armour Screen Protector" or some equivalent. I've used it on my Mate 20 for some time, maybe about 9 months, and it works fine. I think it has to be reapplied every year or so. Guess it depends on usage.

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Lol took you that long to figure it out?

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This is bait, but i'll bite:

Try making some proper arguments instead of baseless accusations.

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Given your high standards i am totally up for the Shaih(kritzer) No1 :cool:

Seriously, i do not consider you a troll.
I have seen you where quite exited about the device and at some point your mood turned around.
That troll category should be reserved for those senseless "just arguing for the sake of arguing" type imo.
But Olf is a great and tough (real life) moderator as i can assure you.
If your style of trying to bring your point across raises his and others troll flag it should give you serious signals. Do not rely on my unexperienced opinion.
I just feel you could pull together all your social skills to sound less accusing, ranting and entitled.

Just try to think of us all sitting in a room, would you talk like that? Or be much more cautious and friendly?

My remaining question on topic simply is, what is your point?
Or your ivan durak analogie from the film, what do you want to warn us from? What gives you the impression we need to be warned at all?

This is a jolly round of old guys celebrating that finally one of us gets his butt up and shows the world how great kbd phones could have been.
And you loudly pick on every slight inconvenience and behave like you are insulted or need to facepalm?

Formulate your critical opinion or findings respectfully like everyone else does and you can be sure to be respected.

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I believe the issue is you really are cherry picking the aspects that you think are bad (aspects that many people have mentioned they consider totally minor, or even normal), ultimately leading to badly biased negative conclusions.

For instance, about the way customers are treated, please do not forget all the meeting events that Chen and Andy have organized, including last minute events when invited by Olf. Some of those events really were targeted at users, not media, with some prototypes devices running unofficial OSes just because a bunch of nerds on TMO were asking for it. Which other companies building niche smartphones are showing such flexibility and sweating this much for their users?

The device also was created based on discussion with the community. More than many devices I have seen before, except maybe the Pyra which is not doing better in terms of delivery. And is a lot less polished. For what it is worth, I don't remember any tech company treating their community this well, and I have participated in many crowdfundings and community projects.

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I think you've participated in Kickstarter/Indiegogo projects before. Even if it is not launched there, It's pretty common for the price to go a bit higher closer to the product launch for such non mass market products, otherwise what sense would it make to pre-order and risk more in the first place? And it has been communicated through email for those who subscribed in advance.

It is also completely normal for pre-orders to be fullfilled before the others for the same reason, and given small quantities of devices produced, they can not realistically ship to both categories at once. I don't get what is incomplete truth example in your case.

I don't think Rolls-Royce comparison is good. If it were cars, Fxtec would be small private factory, which would not compete to the large brands in terms of shop attendants greeting you, but can provide something unique they don't produce. That's probably the reason people don't care much about price mistakes on the website as long as it gets fixed. Also it is not like similar situations do not happen to others, I can remember quite an amount of problems with prices in different online stores.

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Understood and feel genuinely sorry you got that impression regarding service.
I am not the right person to convince you otherwise since i had the fullest service possible with visit to my shop invitation, so literally Rolls Royce treatment.

Regarding after sales service, they work together with a large group of repair shops so chances are good to find one in your area or at least country to send in.

If you are let down by chen telling you personally you should not buy if your standards are not met. Please pardon him. It was not a public advise to critics but a personal defense. Don't mix up with FX service, Chen is an engineer type not a marketing guy. It's more complicated and you did your part to trigger it if you are honest.

Thanks for the honest answer.