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Cue 2012-07-28 23:11

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
He's Bean Jelly for quite some time.

danramos 2012-07-29 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1244319)
He's Bean Jelly for quite some time.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...JohnnyUtah.jpg

MINKIN2 2012-07-29 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244303)
People are now killing to get idevices. One more reason to get Lumia and help Nokia stock

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...sj_share_tweet

Yes people, let's help combat crime with buying phones that are not deemed worthy of stealing by even the lowest of the planets scumbags :p

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 14:02

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One more reason to carry N9. Nobody wants it

switch-hitter 2012-07-29 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1244577)
Yes people, let's help combat crime with buying phones that are not deemed worthy of stealing by even the lowest of the planets scumbags :p

When I chose a handset for my daughter I made sure it was one no self respecting mugger would want.

switch-hitter 2012-07-29 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244583)
One more reason to carry N9. Nobody wants it

Didn't you previously claim to have a multitude of them?

I still want one.

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1244593)
Didn't you previously claim to have a multitude of them?

I still want one.

I have three. All three in my drawer. iPhone 4s for regular use and e51 for phone calls. Tried to interest my children into using N9, they returned it due to lack of apps

number41 2012-07-29 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244598)
I have three. All three in my drawer. iPhone 4s for regular use and e51 for phone calls. Tried to interest my children into using N9, they returned it due to lack of apps

Taking you on that bet you proposed earlier:

Provide a Timestamped picture, as in, a picture with all your supposed N9s, and a handwritten paper including date, time of posting, your nickname and mine. Picture must be posted to this forums, to this thread, with date and time matching those of the posting.

Do this and your pesos are all yours. Otherwise, I say this is bull.

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by number41 (Post 1244624)
Taking you on that bet you proposed earlier:

Provide a Timestamped picture, as in, a picture with all your supposed N9s, and a handwritten paper including date, time of posting, your nickname and mine. Picture must be posted to this forums, to this thread, with date and time matching those of the posting.

Do this and your pesos are all yours. Otherwise, I say this is bull.

How many pesos?

number41 2012-07-29 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1215234)

Dont let me make you pay 200 pesos hombre.

I'll sweeten the deal and make it 400. Now, let's see some pictures.

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 16:17

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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...33#post1244633

I think you just lost:)

ranbaxy 2012-07-29 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244598)
I have three. All three in my drawer. iPhone 4s for regular use and e51 for phone calls. Tried to interest my children into using N9, they returned it due to lack of apps

Please send all of them to me for free :o I would happily take them :o

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by number41 (Post 1244630)
I'll sweeten the deal and make it 400. Now, let's see some pictures.

Where are my pesos?

number41 2012-07-29 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244645)
Where are my pesos?

You aren't as full of sh*t as I thought. Who would've guessed... Anyways, here are your pesos, though I'm not sure where do I send them. Btw, shipping is on you.

http://www.7735.com/es/sale/pesca-pl...e-plomo-dc8179

mikecomputing 2012-07-29 18:35

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This thread seems dead? Haven't seen any posts for long now?

probadly because my spamfilter is enabled....

Lumiaman 2012-07-29 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by number41 (Post 1244653)
You aren't as full of sh*t as I thought. Who would've guessed... Anyways, here are your pesos, though I'm not sure where do I send them. Btw, shipping is on you.

http://www.7735.com/es/sale/pesca-pl...e-plomo-dc8179

Keep the change hombre.

Cue 2012-07-29 18:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1244665)
This thread seems dead? Haven't seen any posts for long now?

probadly because my spamfilter is enabled....

It's the weekend so the topic may be dead for now but we have Lumiaman for entertaining chit-chat about pesos.

volt 2012-07-30 10:55

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Weekend - no stock movement. But now it's monday past lunch time in Europe, so let's see where this picks off, shall we?

NOK1V (Euros) Helsinki.

Day:
http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...a384e3d942.png

Week:
http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...3298322a5a.png

Month:
http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...f468c844a8.png

Year:
http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...55f79b5e91.png

Last week was a very good week for Nokia compared to what we're used to by now, and this weeks picks up exactly where last week ended. We can see that this is the best UP since May. But it's still a long way back to the €4 we saw then.

specc 2012-07-30 11:06

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Samsungs new WP8 devices

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_reveal...-news-4578.php

don_falcone 2012-07-30 12:33

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Nokia stock:
http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip...4691.strip.gif

Lumiaman 2012-07-30 14:50

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NOKIA will hit $5 by the end of october. I think the fact that iphone 5 doesnt look that much different, and Samsung reputation as a cheap copycat, NOKIA will find an opening.

volt 2012-07-30 15:06

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Samsung doesn't have that reputation.

danramos 2012-07-30 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1244961)
NOKIA will hit $5 by the end of october. I think the fact that iphone 5 doesnt look that much different, and Samsung reputation as a cheap copycat, NOKIA will find an opening.

Not only do they not have that reputation, a judge got so sick of Apple repeatedly casting lawsuits hoping SOMETHING would stick that he even made them have to point out that they're not copying and not guilty. :)

As usual, Lumiaman, just because you say it is so.. does not make it so.

mikecomputing 2012-07-30 16:53

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There must be some rumor that Nokia will buy Jolla or else why the **** the Nokia stock go upward?


............

Lumiaman 2012-07-30 20:41

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NOKIA increased its cash reserves, and expectations of
WP8 are high, hence speculative rise in Stock prices. As I said before, stock prices are a gamble. They do not reflect the future.

volt 2012-07-31 10:35

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The climb continues this morning:

NOK1V, Helsinki, Euros.

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...8c1d7ab38a.png

stealthology 2012-07-31 10:53

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Can anyone confirm that NOK would have just about broken even last quarter if they didn't pay out their dividend? If that's true, then won't the next few quarters mean NOK is fairly safe to break even?

kojacker 2012-07-31 10:54

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Interestingly, I believe, there has been quite a few Nokia insider buys filed yesterday (July 30th)

Quote:

Risto Siilasmaa purchased 333,000 shares on July 30th and currently holds 732,592 shares of the company. Mr. Siilasmaa is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Nokia Corporation.

Bruce Brown purchased 22,000 shares on July 30th and currently holds 42,850 shares of the company. Mr. Brown has been Board member since May 3, 2012.

Helge Lund purchased 17,000 shares on July 30th and currently holds 46,596 shares of the company. Mr. Lund has been Board member since May 3, 2011.

Mårten Mickos purchased 67,500 shares on July 30th and currently holds 88,350 shares of the company. Mr. Mickos has been Board member since May 3, 2012.

Kari Stadigh purchased 170,404 shares on July 30th and currently holds 400,000 shares of the company. Mr. Stadigh has been Board member since May 3, 2011.

Stephen Elop purchased 275,000 shares on July 27th and currently holds 425,000 shares of the company. Mr. Elop is President and CEO of Nokia Corporation.

Henning Kagermann purchased 136,060 shares on July 27th and currently holds 187,977 shares of the company. Henning Kagermann serves as Director of the company.
Make of that what you will

stealthology 2012-07-31 11:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1245370)
Interestingly, I believe, there has been quite a few Nokia insider buys filed yesterday (July 30th)



Make of that what you will

Add that to this story which came out yesterday: "Nokia Sweetens Stock Plan to Retain Key Talent":
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...854053168.html

Hmm time to buy more NOK? But ****, it's already 8% of my portfolio.

specc 2012-07-31 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthology (Post 1245369)
Can anyone confirm that NOK would have just about broken even last quarter if they didn't pay out their dividend? If that's true, then won't the next few quarters mean NOK is fairly safe to break even?

They paid more than 700M euros in dividend. With the cash they have today, they may last 4-5 years. Maybe it's about time for the community here to wake up? Just a simple question. Life in the utter darkness must be boring after a year or two, no? ;)

volt 2012-07-31 15:23

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If Nokia is to survive, they can't drop much further than they already did. I don't think a dollar fifty is the "right" price for a surviving Nokia. As such; I believe there's a chance to earn now. Downside is, it's not a safe investment at all.

That's why you have a chance at winning large, I guess. Seems to me Nokia has the cash to live till Windows Phone 8 Flops, chances are you can cash with profit before that.

But I'm nobody.

switch-hitter 2012-07-31 18:59

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Dividends are paid from retained profits, it has no impact on your profit and loss account in the current period whatsoever.

The profits being distributed to shareholders now will have been generated by sales of Symbian devices in previous financial years.

If Windows Phone continues to fail retained profits will be eaten away by losses, bank balances will rapidly diminish and dividends will just become a fond memory.

Lumiaman 2012-07-31 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1245556)
Dividends are paid from retained profits, it has no impact on your profit and loss account in the current period whatsoever.

The profits being distributed to shareholders now will have been generated by sales of Symbian devices in previous financial years.

If Windows Phone continues to fail retained profits will be eaten away by losses, bank balances will rapidly diminish and dividends will just become a fond memory.

Do you take Prozac on a daily basis? Try speed, it works wonders:)

kojacker 2012-07-31 21:42

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The stock has swung from being way undervalued at $1.63 to now over-valued (imo) at $2.41. My own feeling is that the stock is worth around $2.17 at this point. Two things are driving the price - the quarterly results showing Nokia had more reserves of cash than the market had expected, and more recently the sheer volume of trades is escalating the price. Today, for example, 92.1 million NOK shares traded (1.8 times its average daily volume).

switch-hitter 2012-07-31 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1245615)
Do you take Prozac on a daily basis? Try speed, it works wonders:)

http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecac...RUG-FREE_1.jpg

stealthology 2012-08-01 03:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1245625)
The stock has swung from being way undervalued at $1.63 to now over-valued (imo) at $2.41. My own feeling is that the stock is worth around $2.17 at this point. Two things are driving the price - the quarterly results showing Nokia had more reserves of cash than the market had expected, and more recently the sheer volume of trades is escalating the price. Today, for example, 92.1 million NOK shares traded (1.8 times its average daily volume).

Dude, a lot of people just realized NOK's chances of bankruptcy are extremely low after the news broke today regarding Optus (2nd largest carrier in Australia) selecting Nokia-Siemens to build out a huge 4G network there:
http://www.telecomtiger.com/Wireless...2&section=S216

danramos 2012-08-01 03:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1245625)
The stock has swung from being way undervalued at $1.63 to now over-valued (imo) at $2.41. My own feeling is that the stock is worth around $2.17 at this point. Two things are driving the price - the quarterly results showing Nokia had more reserves of cash than the market had expected, and more recently the sheer volume of trades is escalating the price. Today, for example, 92.1 million NOK shares traded (1.8 times its average daily volume).

I'm not sure that a bunch of insider purchases (if I'm to believe the recent posts) to help raise the stock value will help for very long. This sort of tactic only works for so long (and it doesn't help those investors dumping money into it, unless everyone else takes the bait and buys back in again). I suspect it'll drop back again down pretty soon.

specc 2012-08-01 08:01

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Above 2 € now, and climbing. :D

mikecomputing 2012-08-01 08:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1245749)
I'm not sure that a bunch of insider purchases (if I'm to believe the recent posts) to help raise the stock value will help for very long. This sort of tactic only works for so long (and it doesn't help those investors dumping money into it, unless everyone else takes the bait and buys back in again). I suspect it'll drop back again down pretty soon.

shhh let micronokia fanboys buy alot and then loose them next week or so....

volt 2012-08-01 10:14

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http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...be1be8cbf2.png

6 month view, NOK1V Helsinki, price in €.

If you bought a week ago, you could make a nice profit unless you sit too long.


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