Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Have been playing for over a year now on my Jolla and it's been fine. Just wondered if there was any issues on the X

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is the next release going to be a minor point update, or are we likely to see a feature release which includes bluetooth and the radio.

i've had my X for six months now, and i bought Sailfish X this week, but it's no good to me until those two features arrive.

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I'm confident that every new release (for the next year) will fix some X issues. Only Jolla devs can say which ones, in what release.

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What I'm actually expecting in next SailfishX release:
* Enhanced partitioning scheme (rootfs much larger)
* Fingerprint sensor driver
* Better camera management (focus, button commands)

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What issue do have you regarding bluetooth and radio ?

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BT has seen improvements, FM Radio I doubt we will see any time soon

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You can already enlarge the rootfs yourself :) (I tested it and can confirm that this works perfectly on my xperia x with ota still intact)

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my understanding was that the initial release (where we are now?) would not include bluetooth support.

Is this a misunderstanding of our present situation?

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Well, I'm using bluetooth almost every day without any issue ( audio speaker, in my car, etc ... )

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For me Bluetooth is working but with some issues:
Can't connect to one of my car audios (Mercedes), Connecting to the other Car works but Phonebook isn't synced and I have manually to choose what kind of connection to use. if I choose Media I can't make calls if I choose phoe I can't listen to media. Connecting to other devices works, but I have to disable wifi if I wan't to listen music otherwise there are annoying interupts in sound.

So from my side:
It works, but it is not really comfortable at the moment.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

car audio hookup is really where i use bluetooth on a daily basis.

thanks, both.

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There is a manual fix for BT car pairing here, worked for me (Nissan Connect on 2013 Qashqai+2):

https://together.jolla.com/question/...post-id-175787

Contacts also correctly transferred afterwards.

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I got a feeling we won't be seeing the update before the end of year. looking at https://coderus.openrepos.net/whitesoft/sailversion it doesn't seem like they have any builds available for anyone to test.

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I'm not sure Jolla can find a possibility to resize the partitions which works 100% and is safe. But that's what needed to deploy such change as normal update since people will get very mad if it soft- or even hard-bricks their phone.
I've understood the whole rootfs size argument from Jollas side in a way that they will change the partition size in future images. So it will change in images for new phones, maybe they also provide a new image for the Xperia with a bigger rootfs partition (but you will have to reflash your phone). Maybe they will release a resizing script for all of those who would like to take the risk. But I deem it's to risky to include it in a normal update for everybody.

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Talking about bluetooth, IMAP, and adding a number row on keyboard on last mer meeting :)
http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...-21-11.00.html

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I looked for the exact link but didn't find it, but IIRC James commented on blog.jolla.com that it's most likely we'll have to wait until 2018.

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Thx!
I just would like to make it even more clear for Linux users of an already flashed XperiaX:

To start the Xperia in fastboot mode (phone switched off): volume UP + plugin usb. Keep volume up button pressed until your led lights blue (about 2 seconds).
To boot the recovery enter this in a terminal instance open in the folder containing hybris-recovery.img:

Your phone boots to recovery (very small text displayed). In the same terminal window, enter

Select option 3 (shell). 5-digit unlock code will be asked but not displayed (phone will be locked for 24 hours after 4 mistakes)

In case of failure, exit: volume UP + on/off/fingerprint button.

Otherwise, proceed as indicated in https://together.jolla.com/question/...post-id-156670

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Me hope for Sailfishos on Xperia XZ 2018.....

Still hate android after 3 months of use....

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Yes, and Xperia X is increasingly hard to buy.

I also wish Jolla or some other company would start a business selling Xperias with Sailfish pre-installed.

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Xperia X still available from German Amazon (225€)
https://www.amazon.de/Sony-Smartphon...words=Xperia+X

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New blog post:

https://blog.jolla.com/happy-2018/

Two new Sony Xperia devices will be supported: the dual-SIM X, and a "to-be-announced next generation device".

I'm probably going for the to-be-announced one. I hope it's a the highest end possible device so I'm covered for a few more years ..

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Honestly, my wish as a Sailfishos fan and follower: I'd appreciate it if Jolla would fix or comment their very bad camera software which they delivered with the Sony Xperia X first before making exciting announcements about new devices to come.

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This still looks pathetic,
but if anyone can get i2pd and/or some version of toxchat
working on Sailfish then it might be worth a look.

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I still use whisperfish for encrypted sms, that's about all. Does cyanide still work for tox? Outside of that, are there any Alien Dalvik options that'd suit you? Sailfish has at least some measure of expected privacy, since - unlike Apple, Microsoft and Google - they aren't subject to NSA/CIA disclosure requirements.

Edit: moreover, what's pathetic about a real Linux in your pocket that doesn't have attack vectors purposely left open? Especially one that's officially supported on a nice device, with obvious work going into it? It isn't mainstream, and issues are constantly being ironed out. If you don't like it, don't use it, but don't call the work and result pathetic as it only serves to make you look bitter and ill-informed. Use Android if it suits you, but don't expect any real privacy or security, even with your i2p and tox implementations.

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which is exactly what I want,
but it must be able to run i2pd and uTox or qTox or Antox
or some other Tox communication.

Android does not 'suit me' at all.
Which is precisely why I ask here - I loathe the idea of using Android.
But buying into Sailfish if it cannot run tox + i2pd is a deal breaker.

After paying into Ubuntu's failure and a couple of other fails
I have learned the hard way to ask hard questions
before wasting huge amounts of time chasing promises.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

jTox is available. Don't know about i2pd.

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jTox, cyanide, and numerous options left available through Alien Dalvik. Why does a (very) specific and narrow use case equate to a platform being "pathetic"? There are bugs and quirks, sure, but it's literally the only reasonable alternative when it comes to modern mobile OSes, especially for devices where telephony is a priority. Tizen and Ubuntu Touch were trash out of the gate. If there's a better example than Sailfish on the Xperia X, especially in the realm of officially supported reasonably modern hardware running a reasonably modern Linux kernel, I'd be all ears.

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"While we’re already working on to support a next generation device,"

"As we’re working already on two other new devices (the dual SIM and the to-be-announced)"

I wonder if this means the device has not yet been announced by Sony (new device)? Or does it mean the device to be supported is already released by Sony but support is not yet officially announced by Jolla?

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I think it means a device is already released by Sony but support is not yet officially announced by Jolla.

But I am just happy to see that they will officially support dual-sim and compact versions of the phone

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

should be XZ something, seem there havent too much choice left

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I don't understand from the blog post they'll support the X Compact.

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Yes, it seems the Compact is not high on priority list;

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Who's that Chinese licensing partner they talk about?

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Youyota? 10 chars

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I don't think this is correct. IIRC (based on Jollas press releases) it's a different & presumably substantial not yet named third party in China.

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So what i understand is that we have to wait for new kernel to get SDXC card samsung evo+ 256gb working?
Works fine when i have vFAT and when i format it to ext4 on the phone it doesn't work anymore...?

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Im awaiting for SMB/CIFS support on kernel, dont know why they didnt add it on launch!? I wanna transfer files easily between my NAS/phone again.

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Meanwhile, you get rather quickly used to scp or rsync. Besides, rsync is totally awesome compared to any other file transfer. Unison would be another option, but I haven't looked if it compiles on sailfish.

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Perhaps it will be included when the fix is out for Spectre! Meanwhile I use sftp.

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Btw is there a qwerty slider case for Xperia X?