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WHEN
May 30-31 + Friday night party (29th).

WHAT
This hands-on developer meeting is all about getting software ready for
end users. Both Fennec and Maemo 5 will be in beta stage and approaching their final releases. Code, test, fix, improve... and have fun!

Approaching final releases ? Time to heat up the good ole gossip machine, there's no espresso anyway :)

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I'm thinkin' someone should tag this thread... :)

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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4862947030.html

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Nokia will release a new touchscreen-based Internet Tablet in the fourth quarter, says TheStreet. Meanwhile, a Nokia haptic touchscreen-based smartphone is due in the third quarter, followed by a "Nautilus" touchscreen phone shipping in 2010, and possibly a Foxconn-manufactured Nokia netbook, the financial website claims.

All the Nokia stories from TheStreet were attributed to "people familiar with the company" and the like, and offered very few details except that the new devices will incorporate both slide-down QWERTY keyboards and haptic touchscreen response technology from Immersion. Immersion's haptic technology, which supplies audible and tactile feedback for touch interfaces, currently supports only Windows and Apple platforms, but the company says it is working on porting it to Linux and other platforms.

It is unclear which, if any, of the Nokia devices will run Linux, but both the netbook and the new Internet Tablet, which TheStreet says will offer a 4.2-inch touchscreen and a slide-out QWERTY keyboard, appear to be likely candidates. In fact, Nokia's existing Maemo Linux-based N810 Internet Tablet (pictured at top) already fits the above description.

Ari Jaaksi

Last September, Nokia VP Ari Jaaksi (pictured) revealed that Nokia would add 3G/HSPA capabilities to a Texas Instruments (TI) OMAP3x-optimized Maemo 5 Linux mobile distro, and that it would contribute code for 3G/HSPA on OMAP3x to the Linux kernel. The ARM Cortex-A8-based OMAP3x platform includes processors such as the 600MHz OMAP3530, a high-end system-on-chip (SoC) that offers integrated OpenGL ES 2.0 and a video accelerator. Even the lower end processors in the OMAP3 family are more powerful than the 400MHz TI ARM-based OMAP2420 that powers Nokia's N810 tablet.

According to another recent story in TheStreet (somebody at Nokia appears to be quite the chatterbox), Nokia has now "sealed the deal" with one of its original device manufacturing (ODM) partners, Taiwan's Foxconn, to build a netbook. The story also says that Foxconn is closing in on a deal to lease the former Nokia manufacturing facility in Fort Worth, Texas, presumably as a location to build the netbooks.

The Nautilus surfaces

The other two devices mentioned in the article appear to be phones, and are likely to run Symbian, which is expected to be released in its first open source version this year. On the other hand, in December, a Nokia executive was quoted by Reuters as saying the company was considering Linux for its higher end smartphones "in the longer perspective." With Maemo 5, now in alpha, supporting 3G, a subsequent version is likely to take on cellular voice communications (VoIP over WiFi is already available on the N810). As such, the lines between MIDs and smartphones are likely to blur.

The second device mentioned by TheStreet, although referred to as a "phone," appears to be just such a hybrid. Code-named Nautilus, the phone "emphasizes a very slim touchscreen design," says the story, adding that, "A sensor is used to extend or withdraw the keyboard into the phone. The keypad is said to be ultrathin, but when it slides out the Qwerty keys rise for easier typing." (The keys would rise from the surface not unlike the surfacing Nautilus, one would suppose.)

As the story mentions, "Nokia has been late to the touchscreen trend." Indeed, its higher end Symbian-based smartphones have been playing catch-up to the Apple iPhone, Research in Motion (RIM) BlackBerry, and more recently, the Android-based HTC G1 smartphones, all of which now offer advanced touch interfaces.

MIDs, tablets, and the coming ARM/x86 battle

A recent ABI Research study projected that ARM-based tablets and mobile Internet devices would provide considerable competition to Intel Atom-based MIDs. In a previous ABI study on MIDs, the research firm forecast that by 2013, MIDs will outsell netbooks, and that Linux will take the "lion's share" of the market, selling 86 million devices that year.

The Linux MID segment will primarily be limited to three platforms, said ABI, with the Intel- (and now Linux Foundation-) sponsored Moblin leading with 42 percent. Next in line, the group projected, would come Nokia's open source Maemo, which runs on Nokia's Internet Tablets, including the N810. The LiMo Foundation's mobile-phone oriented LiMo Platform was pegged as coming in third in MID software.

A little over a year ago, Nokia acquired the half of Symbian it did not previously own, and then vowed to make the Symbian OS open source. Around the same time, it also acquired cross-platform software company Trolltech, which has been a major player in the embedded Linux world, with its Qt stack used in Linux-based mobile phones from Motorola and others. The Nokia-owned entity, now called Qt Software, recently released a new version 4.5 of Qt.

Availability

The story on TheStreet reporting on the Nokia touchscreen devices is here, and links to another story on the Foxconn-manufactured Nokia netbook.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 277497)

I'm thinkin' someone should tag this thread... :)

Picnic baskets is good, maybe we should get one for Frank?

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It is incomprehensible to me, Nokia is not the first Innovator (future not history - The success story N770 & N800 & N810 bring no more money) to the market - but clearly they lose money and market shares

see the new Crunchpad - a top man developed a usable Internet Tablet for an attractive price with Linux in a fast time

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/10...hpad-pictures/

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content...runchpadb5.jpg

And Apple probably (shortly) also surprise the market

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/11/s...ing-apple-tes/

http://img.engadget.com/common/image...3428673731.JPG

or

Elan Microelectronics demonstrates its eFinger multitouch tech running on Android

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/12/e...itouch-tech-r/

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It's strange but my n800 is much smaller than theese. Maybe I should check my eyes...

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I still want a tablet like Frank is showing. I want something to use in and around my house that has at least a 12" touchscreen and wifi. Oh, the fun I could have...

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 279515)

I still want a tablet like Frank is showing. I want something to use in and around my house that has at least a 12" touchscreen and wifi. Oh, the fun I could have...

So long as it has an ACTIVE DIGITIZER, and not exclusively capacitive/resistive touch. Both could be fine with a slick enough interface. If it's exclusively touch, then perhaps this isn't necessary, but with a stylus, definitely.

Even on my current N810, I have to be careful of the position of the device while I'm writing on the screen as to avoid pressing the screen with the pad of my hand. I can only imagine the horror of trying to write on a screen 12" large while levitating my hand mid-air as not to produce unwanted input.

Long time tablet/slate makers have included active digitizers as a standard. After using a large touch screen, it's obvious as to the reasons why.

YARR!
}:^)~

Capt'n Corrupt beta

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Nokia - time to markets - come on - no risk - no fun :)

Nokia's profits drop 90% in Q1 2009
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/16/n...90-in-q1-2009/

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So, there's good news and bad news here, and we're opting to go against tradition by dishing out the positive first. Nokia just pushed out its Q1 2009 results, and while many firms have been struggling to stay afloat, at least it managed to turn a profit of €122 million ($160 million). That said, it's still looking at a staggering 90 percent drop in profits compared to its first quarter of 2008, where it raked in a mind-boggling €1.222 billion ($1.6 billion). Not surprisingly, sales were also down 27 percent to €9.28 billion ($12.2 billion) from €12.7 billion ($16.7 billion). Of course, Nokia's far from being alone in having to showcase less-than-beautiful Q1 numbers, but in reality, the damage could've been much worse; in fact, shares of the company's stock inched up by 8 percent following the reveal, as many had feared an even more significant decline. All in all, Nokia's still holding strong to a 37 percent market share worldwide, and if CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo has anything to do with it (hint: he does), things should be on the up and up here soon.

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation

Time is infinite - just wait - quality takes time - fremantle takes time also :)