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crash16 2010-01-30 00:25

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 501858)
Although I'm sour on the N900, your complaints don't make sense. What type of applications are you looking for that you couldn't find on the N900? More importantly, being such a newly released product, you have to give it a little time for the applications to keep rolling in and before bugs are worked out in general. I can't speak to the portrait mode--I thought the N900 had a portrait mode. And then, I prefer landscape for most things myself anyway, but that's small relief to someone that prefers portrait. I wouldn't, quite yet, be so defeated by the things you're pointing out.


All my friends have an Iphone, it has a lot of games, they can install a proper navigation app like sygic, tomtom, IGO!!...etc.I can't do anything of this on my N900:(...

lma 2010-01-30 00:27

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 501539)
Also, I don't understand the craze about Maemo 6. How do you know it doesn't suck?

What he said. We have had so little information about Maemo 6 so far that we can't want it (or not) rationally. If the reason for wanting it is that the version is one higher, I've got some nice amps that go to 11 to sell you :-)

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It may even have LESS features than Maemo 5! (in fact if the past trends were any indicator it WILL have less features -- and some of the WONTFIXes are because of components no longer developed).
BTDTGTTS

danramos 2010-01-30 00:29

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 501843)
Your words, based on your thoughts. Allow me to disagree. :)

Again, I recommend you to come back to this topic after the Harmattan alpha release.

I put the question to you again: are you implying that Maemo 6 would be available for the N900?

crash16 2010-01-30 00:30

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
i understand that it is a new phone but the price the customers pay is really high as well..so we should have more things on it. Before, i had a n95 8gb and i was really impressed about it that's why i've got a new nokia phone!

fatalsaint 2010-01-30 00:34

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
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Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501867)
i understand that it is a new phone but the price the customers pay is really high as well..so we should have more things on it. Before, i had a n95 8gb and i was really impressed about it that's why i've got a new nokia phone!

You have full flash in a browser.. that does a lot of what probably 90ish percent of the "iphone" apps provide. You hit some very specific points, IE: map/navigation, that are known weaknesses with the N900 and should have been known before spending that kind of money.

There is a good amount of useful apps in the repos... ask your iPhone buddies to play Quake on your TV, or listen to pandora through your car without an adapter or cables.

Go to pretty much any flash-based website.. or stream a local radio station through the browser.

There are several threads around here about how to "show up" iphone users if that's your thing. I personally don't see much point in it: You either like the device and what it offers you (control, flexibility) or you don't. If you wanted an iPhone that's probably what you should have went for.

mrojas 2010-01-30 00:35

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 501865)
I put the question to you again: are you implying that Maemo 6 would be available for the N900?

I am pretty sure that if Quim could answer, he would have answered already.

Perhaps, depending on technical-timing-financial factors, they don't know yet.

There are many possibilities... Maybe they can do it, but they would need to hire 10 more devs and need the approval of a higher up to do it. Maybe they can do it, but in order to do it, Maemo 6 wouldn't release on time and need to work on the re-scheduling. Maybe it can't be done, but they are working on some kind of trade-in which isn't ready yet to be announced.

So many things that can happen! And one thing will happen for sure: people will hold Quim and Nokia accountable for what they say, will expect their word to be fulfilled, and there will be hell if it doesn't (remember the N900 launch delay?).

bijoux 2010-01-30 00:36

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
The device is simply not for you. Return it and get yourself an Iphone.

I bought the device for what it is (allow me to refresh your memory). And what it is, serves my needs 100%. M6, shiny apps and games are just bonuses to me.

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Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501861)
All my friends have an Iphone, it has a lot of games, they can install a proper navigation app like sygic, tomtom, IGO!!...etc.I can't do anything of this on my N900:(...


danramos 2010-01-30 00:36

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crash16 (Post 501861)
All my friends have an Iphone, it has a lot of games, they can install a proper navigation app like sygic, tomtom, IGO!!...etc.I can't do anything of this on my N900:(...

Ah, it sounds like maybe you've got that problem that loomed for YEARS in the 'Linux vs Windows' wars on the desktop. ie: I went to the store to buy a game but it won't run in Linux! (replace Linux with Macintosh or Amiga or Atari, etc.)

It's just a matter of finding this platform's rockstar killer must-have apps.

I don't have an N900, but I do have an N800 and I have no shortage of available software from games to multimedia to office programs and console (terminal) tools to do real work. Last I checked, Sygic is VERY close to being released on the N900. I think THAT will come as a GREAT comfort to you, as I understand the OviMap navigation suuuuuuuuucks. Just a short wait, I'm hoping.

In the meantime, take a wander over to the Maemo downloads site ( http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ ) to see some of the recommended apps, if you haven't already been there. Be sure to also scour the forums for N900 app-related topics.

I hope this helps.

fatalsaint 2010-01-30 00:38

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
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Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 501870)
I am pretty sure that if Quim could answer, he would have answered already.

Perhaps, depending on technical-timing-financial factors, they don't know yet.

There are many possibilities... Maybe they can do it, but they would need to hire 10 more devs and need the approval of a higher up to do it. Maybe they can do it, but in order to do it, Maemo 6 wouldn't release on time and need to work on the re-scheduling. Maybe it can't be done, but they are working on some kind of trade-in which isn't ready yet to be announced.

So many things that can happen! And one thing will happen for sure: people will hold Quim and Nokia accountable for what they say, will expect their word to be fulfilled, and there will be hell if it doesn't (remember the N900 launch delay?).

Precisely, which is why I don't push him.. and also why I specifically said I was sure he had insider knowledge. But then he, nor anyone, can really blame us for operating on the information, albeit maybe little (which is not our fault), that we have to work from.

ste-phan 2010-01-30 00:40

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
I do not get it, this is supposed to be a geek phone that allows you to run some linux applications, is it not?
IF you feel the need to impress iPhone friends then open a shh terminal connection or something and install a web server or hack a bank while everybody thinks you are SMS chatting. If they are not geek enough to get it, you have the wrong friends :D


These days people are so spoiled good things hardly become a classic before everyone realises the next best thing wasn ' t worth all that waiting.


When I bought this phone I was expecting to get a better surfing experience than on E71 and it delivers. I am still keeping E71 it for navigation.
N900 is well worth the 200 Euro price difference
Contact integration, large memory, nice music player, quick menu navigation, native skype.

The only thing needed to enhance the surfing experience is the ghostery and noscript plug ins for Firefox to stop google watching the every move.

Ah yes, there is no excuse for having not the slightest web cam integration in the Skype program, Skype being such a closed program.

That said, I recon it is easy to start whining so I quit here and wish everybody a lot of enjoyment of their little toys.


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