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Dave999 2017-08-25 11:08

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1533195)
You obviously have never seen a slider device like E7/N950/Lauta...

That is almost true. So it not a correct observation. I haven't seen 950/Lauta with my own eyes but I have had some battles with E7 in the past, and if E7 looks the same and you can see that it's not a regular candybar device as the image provided. That said, the front and center can give you an idea of how sailingChen will look like but you can always see if the is a slider becouse it's not a solid candy...and the image provide is pure candybar.

http://www.fone3.com/wp-content/uplo...5/Nokia-E7.jpg

juiceme 2017-08-25 11:22

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1533211)
you can always see if the is a slider becouse it's not a solid candy...and the image provide is pure candybar.

Check for example the middle image in https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIBktqKXsAMkACP?format=jpg

Now, imagine that the whole black part in the front is the up-sliding-display-part and the golden part is what's left down to form the keyboard part. Just like in E7 but a bit more inset.

See, not a candybar.

Dave999 2017-08-25 11:28

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1533214)
Check for example the middle image in https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIBktqKXsAMkACP?format=jpg

Now, imagine that the whole black part in the front is the up-sliding-display-part and the golden part is what's left down to form the keyboard part. Just like in E7 but a bit more inset.

See, not a candybar.

Could be. But I'm sceptical due to the fact that it's so thin(screen part of the slider). But maybe they are so thin today :D also the screen seems to be too tight regarding the sides.
I would like to see it keyboard mode first. Maybe you are right.

willi6868 2017-08-25 11:28

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1533186)
Awsome!!! hope you add the option for a qwertz keyboard :)

Yes Chen already confirmed a QWERTZ version here. :)

BTW here is the post with the picture/mockup of the phone with open slider: TMO link :D

juiceme 2017-08-25 11:50

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1533216)
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1533214)
See, not a candybar.

Could be. But I'm sceptical due to the fact that it's so thin(screen part of the slider). But maybe they are so thin today :D also the screen seems to be too tight regarding the sides.
I would like to see it keyboard mode first. Maybe you are right.

You are correct about the thinness, having a proper keyboard with a keymat that has the right tactile feel might require the device to be considerably thicker.

But anyways, these are just renderings, I consider them more like "what we want to do" than "what it finally will look like"

Fellfrosch 2017-08-25 11:58

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1533220)
You are correct about the thinness, having a proper keyboard with a keymat that has the right tactile feel might require the device to be considerably thicker.

But anyways, these are just renderings, I consider them more like "what we want to do" than "what it finally will look like"

I think the Blackberry PRiv proves, that you can have a thin and like a Candybar looking slider:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...(STV100-1).jpg

r0kk3rz 2017-08-25 12:05

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1533216)
Could be. But I'm sceptical due to the fact that it's so thin(screen part of the slider). But maybe they are so thin today :D also the screen seems to be too tight regarding the sides.
I would like to see it keyboard mode first. Maybe you are right.

E7 was before laminated displays and gorilla glass became a standard thing, and in general phones have gotten a lot thinner over the years.

The Fairphone 2 display module is quite thin and is a standalone part with a connector, its not too much of a stretch to see that as a slider screen.

https://youtu.be/hsop-mM1MZk?t=27

romu 2017-08-25 13:02

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
Totally out of date, but a small reminder about screen size. The key dimension is not the screen diagonal, it's the whole phone width.

In my case (and only my case), a phone wider than 65mm is difficult to manipulate with one hand only. My X Compact has almost the same screen dimension as the J1, but it's 3 mm narrower, and this changes everything...but has not SFOS...yet.

Beautiful rendering though.

nh1402 2017-08-25 13:05

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by romu (Post 1533227)
Totally out of date, but a small reminder about screen size. The key dimension is not the screen diagonal, it's the whole phone width.

In my case (and only my case), a phone wider than 65mm is difficult to manipulate with one hand only. My X Compact has almost the same screen dimension as the J1, but it's 3 mm narrower, and this changes everything...but has not SFOS...yet.

Beautiful rendering though.

what about the height?, good luck trying to reach the top left/right corner of the screen on the S8+.

NX500 2017-08-25 13:18

Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
There is one thing I noticed.

Chen mentioned the device will have (a) 2.5D glass/screen.

But the rendered devices appear to have an flat screen, enclosed by round edges, the same as the Jolla-phone.

Are these renders just not final, or is the decision itself, about the device, having a "true" 2.5D screen not final?

I'd welcome the decision of having a regular 2D screen with round edges, though..
Because I like to put screen protectors on my phones, which wont really work, because screen protectors dont adhere onto round glass edges.
It also/hopefully means, that there is less glue used in this device...


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