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cvp 2017-08-25 19:12
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1533217)
Yes Chen already confirmed a QWERTZ version here. :)

BTW here is the post with the picture/mockup of the phone with open slider: TMO link :D
YAY ! :) thanks for the info.

Kabouik 2017-08-25 20:14
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1533216)
Could be. But I'm sceptical due to the fact that it's so thin(screen part of the slider). But maybe they are so thin today :D also the screen seems to be too tight regarding the sides.
I would like to see it keyboard mode first. Maybe you are right.
But you did. You're in this thread since the beginning and the first pictures posted were pictures with keyboard out.

Kabouik 2017-08-25 20:50
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
Chen, could you show in the FP the renders you published so far? I know you are planning on re-working on the FP at a later point, but in the mean time there are people clicking on your signature and seeing just text for a remote project, or ending up here in 60 pages of 5.5"/Qwertz discussion but missing the images.

Pictures are worth a thousand words, and they also look very professional in this particular case, which would foster confidence. Show them directly in the FP and you'll gather more "Shut up and take my money!" and overall visibility, the word will be more likely to be spread, even before the real advertising starts.

marmistrz 2017-08-26 10:49
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
You mentioned a couple of SoC manufacturers in the OP. Was TI OMAP (from N900/N9) not taken into account?

nh1402 2017-08-26 11:16
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1533314)
You mentioned a couple of SoC manufacturers in the OP. Was TI OMAP (from N900/N9) not taken into account?
TI stopped making CPU's quite some time ago didn't they?, I doubt such an old SoC is still being manufactured.

marmistrz 2017-08-26 11:21
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Originally Posted by nh1402 (Post 1533315)
TI stopped making CPU's quite some time ago didn't they?, I doubt such an old SoC is still being manufactured.
That would explain much :P

Venemo 2017-08-28 08:28
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1533316)
That would explain much :P
OMAP3 (used in N900, N9, N950) was a chip made in 2009. After that TI made the OMAP4 (I think used by the BlackBerry Playbook maybe?) but then they quit this market and are not making these anymore.

Why would you even want a 2017 phone to use an old chip from the 2009 era?

marmistrz 2017-08-28 08:30
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Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 1533412)
OMAP3 (used in N900, N9, N950) was a chip made in 2009. After that TI made the OMAP4 (I think used by the BlackBerry Playbook maybe?) but then they quit this market and are not making these anymore.

Why would you even want a 2017 phone to use an old chip from the 2009 era?
Nope, I simply didn't know they had quit the market.

juiceme 2017-08-28 09:24
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 1533412)
Why would you even want a 2017 phone to use an old chip from the 2009 era?
Why not if the said SoC or some OEM's drop-in replacement still would be available?
Assuming it was available, the price should also be pretty low, and since the chip architecture would be have been well tested and familiar then further silicon editions would surely be more optimized and be less-power hungry.
Also there'd be good time to hone and fix open source drivers.

Actually now as I come to think about it, there are nothing but good reasons to use an old SoC.

Venemo 2017-08-28 09:38
Re: The new QWERTY device project
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1533419)
Why not if the said SoC or some OEM's drop-in replacement still would be available?
Assuming it was available, the price should also be pretty low, and since the chip architecture would be have been well tested and familiar then further silicon editions would surely be more optimized and be less-power hungry.
Also there'd be good time to hone and fix open source drivers.

Actually now as I come to think about it, there are nothing but good reasons to use an old SoC.
That's what the Neo900 project is doing, for the reasons you mention.

The disadvantage of such an approach however is that the old hardware has very low performance by today's standard so you can't really have a very responsive GUI or anything. So if that chip were used, the device would have no market appeal to the average consumers.


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