Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Seems strange that the Jolla boys are all using what look like new N950's in their videos.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

It is a N950 and I don't think it seems strange at all. The same group developed that phone and they know it very well.

I think it's the most natural selection for their demo.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Why strange? It's one of the very few devices where you can run normal Linux (such as Mer based Nemo and Sailfish). So why not to use it for testing?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Ok, so they are going with their products as premium devices, can we start making our wish lists now? :D

I want..

2 HWKB's
Fission cell battery
SuperHD screen
1TB micro solid state HDD (removable)
GSM
Integrated accounts with all of my favorite social sites (F***Book/PRONHub/etc..)
x20 optical zoom camera
2.1 stereo speakers
Personally signed by Stephen Elop.

There will be more. :P


Glad to here that they are opening with world wide availability via there online store too.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

http://www.arcticstartup.com/2012/11...n-ceo-of-jolla

Originally found/posted by mariusmssj

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Anything less would be a disappointment, after all... We are talking premium here.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

http://www.jollausers.com/2012/11/7-...ew-but-better/

7.
Can jolla download and run any android apps? Where do they get there info from. Is that confirmed how jolla using play store and android apps with myriad?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

nice OS.... but Jolla.... pls build in the Stand by Clock and notification infos like N9(50) !!!!!!!!1

and build a BIG Battery in you Hardware like Motorola RAZR Maxx !!!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

and a multi color LED. How hard can it be to build a SMART phone.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Premium Premium Premium Premium... What is Premium for a company like jolla? I simply not think a company with a size of Jolla can deliver a premium devices according to my standards and in relation to what other players have up the sleeves for mid 2013.

If jolla can be very close to the top of the line premium brands out there for the first device I would be really surprised... And impressed. Jolla device or galaxy note 4... Can't decide yet. Luckly i have plenty of time.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Such led would only be of any use on a LCD-device. Donotwant LCD, want OLED. I find the LED on the N9 exceptionally useless, as the display consists out of hundreds of thousands RGB-LEDs.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Question for the other thread maybe... Just a hint.... ;)
I doubt they'd be able to use the Play store, the authors would have to agree to host their apps at another store(s), after 1st making some simple changes using Myriad's tools.

+1

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

No answers in the other thread. just questions.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I've read in a few places that Sailfish will soon be hacked and ported to N9. Are there any work being done now or when is it possible to start porting Sailfish? I'm just curious to know when or if this process is already in the works and by whom :)

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Sailfish is already working on the N950.
Based on your information from installing Nemo and/or the Recovery Initrd, take a guess as to whether it would boot on the N9.
Hint: It probably does. All we need is for Jolla to release a rootfs and kernel image.

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Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Thanks for the answer Hurrian. So then were're waiting for them to release the rootfs and kernel image. I hope that'll happen pretty soon. It would be nice to become a Sailfish by Christmas.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Is this what you aiming for?

http://cdn.travora.com/dims4/TRAVORA...ta_Slate-3.jpg

Can't find the Santa Edition of sailfish...where is it?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yes that's it!...and you know you want it too :cool:

I wonder if Jolla want/need to improve stuff before releasing the rootfs and kernel image or why it's not out there "already" for us to test.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Riiight and? That's the whole point... >.>
Besides I gave you your answer, for a more authoritative/verified one, it'd need to come from them ofc.

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Thanks, when to you plan give them to jolla. I don't understand what you are waiting for? Can we send it to stekeeps so he can direct it to the best guys or just call them?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

You REALLY need to attend a course on learning patience, I mean REALLY ;)
I outlined everything in the thread the other day....

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I haven't seen anything being done by sitting around and waiting... Full speed ahead all the time. :D

That's how you make things happen.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I think jolla will release a new image today.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

And how did you know?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Becouse I'm a shark.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I wonder if jolla and sailfish move into the same state as tizen now we're not information comes in or out.

I'm looking in at the schedule for event and don't really see a good one for announcing the device. Could be somthing in HK and that would be a wise move since Asia is the main target.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Pretty good story:

http://qz.com/32922/here-comes-the-f...e-and-android/

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Lets nominate Jolla!

• Fastest Rising closed hidden quiet Startup - Jolla!!=?!?!
  
• Sexiest Enterprise Startup - It simply must be jolla!!!?!?!
  
• Best International Startup - are they asia only+finland?!?! hardly inteernationall???
  
• CEO of the Year - Marc Dillon or Stephan Elop? Or why not go for a dark horse, Jussi hurmula :D

Best Overall Startup of 2012 - Jolla, what have they done so far? How can they win when they have done nothing publicly? Well they might deserve you vote. I don't know!

http://crunchies2012.techcrunch.com/nominate/

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Personally I'm going to abstain, they need to show/explain quite a bit more before I'm 100% satisfied that they're going to survive, & possibly even do well.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

So you can't even give them sexiast enterpise start up?

That's weak! :D

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I will vote for * Most bizarre vaporware this year.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

In order to be vaporware, something should be delayed from the announced schedule, and even probably several times. Nothing like that happened to Jolla. Yet at least.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yeah, I think it's more like Flakeware. There are a lot of bad signs in my opinion:

First and foremost, their asinine reliance on Twitter as their public face. That was (barely) acceptable for the first few months after they announced their existence, since they had the story that they announced their existence before they really wanted to, in order to show the world that Meego was not dead. But now they have an official homepage which is covered with random Twitter postings. Gee - why not include some baby pictures too, and maybe some cute cat videos?

Secondly, their Slush video presentations were very amateurish. I'm not talking just about the one that showed the back of a guy's head most of the time. They were all technically bad (text difficult to read), and obviously inadequately rehearsed. The only one that had even a little actual information in it was the SDK presentation, but the first speaker could not get his laptop display projected (of course, it's sad they were making their video by recording a projected image in the first place). This event was supposed to be Jolla's big coming out event, and they didn't even bother running through the talks beforehand, to check that everyone's AV aids would work.

Third, as far as I can tell, they still have not released an SDK. I guess it's possible that they have announced how to download an SDK in their Twitter feed. It's also possible that a dumpster behind their office building has instructions on how to download an SDK written on an old burrito wrapper. Both would be equally useful documentation methods. The jolla.com site has no technical information of any kind. The Sailfish site has the helpful instruction that "Building Qt-Creator is not easy; getting Designer built too can be hard. ". The Sailfish site suggests that one enquire on IRC channels to get help building an SDK. Why can't these guys, after MONTHS of working on it, just make a virtual machine that we can download for a development environment? I've done that myself for other SDKs. It is not hard. It's starting to look like this is yet another distro that has no interest in outside developers.

I still have great hopes for Jolla/Sailfish, but I think things are starting to look fishy, and not in a good way.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Lol, flakeware?

I think it's more like Starwares.

Intressting post and I'm with you but I must ask:
How many wares do we have for bad things?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I don't think anything looks fishy. Mistakes on the presentation were annoying (camera not showing the screen image and etc.), but I liked the informal nature of it, which was good in contrast with many formal corporate presentations.

Reliance on Twitter only was criticized many times, and they expanded their communication channels since then.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

But if the whole SDK/dev/alliance story isn't ready to be fully presented yet, why should it be more substantive than it currently is?
Besides, I was of the impression that it's more the user-facing site, whereas sailfishos.org is geared more for the devs.
I do agree though, I'm not a fan of the microblogging/social_media centric approach, many devs in their tiny team are engaging in "group hugs" with followers almost as much as work.

This was entirely the venue, it was a joke, I watched many other start-ups, not only Jolla, same sad amateurism.
It's the nature of that format/show, everything is done very ad-hoc, so it all comes out looking very unslick (no pun intended).
Some videos came out much later with better angles, so one could actually read/see most of the stuff on the big display, will dig em up for you if you want.

Yeah starting to wonder there, but really it's unfair to get too hypercritical there, yet...

Sailfish site is clearly meant to be the dev-centric site, that's where most useful info. will appear, gradually...

Did you watch the entire SDK presentation, this WAS covered....

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

If you use Linux as a host, you won't even need a virtual machine. It'll be useful only for non Linux host OSes. On Linux chroot approach will work, saving performance and extra overhead of VMs. Inside the VM it'll run qemu anyway to emulate ARM, so you don't need that extra layer of VirtualBox really.

For those tired waiting, there are other good news. Hopefully Mer/PlasmaActive images for Nexus 7 are coming soon.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Perhaps we were all watching different things, but all I saw was one incomplete UI design with so much to be desired. There is nothing, I mean nothing revolutionary. For a start up, you have to have a revolutionary idea to make it. N9 was iPhone wanna be and failed in so many places. Jolla is wearing emperor clothes, and this forum is eating it up.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yeah, but why would anyone take you (of all people) as some kind of objective authority, most people have you on block because you have blinkers on.
No-one needs your mindless ranting, people are smart enough to form their own opinions without your warped agenda.