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As for contacts -- I use Jolla without SIM and had no option in Peoples to import from file.

But ... Installed "Files" and just went to Download dir, clicked on VCF and an option to import contacts appeared. Import was instant :)

And complaint -- imported contacts have a lot of info's that Jolla show, for ie. google talk account, skype account and so on. ATM there is no way to edit contact and remove such info.

Option to merge contacts is also very wellcome!

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has anyone
1) successfully copied text from an Android app and then pasted it
a) in a native app or
b) in another Android app?

I haven't been able to achieve 1)

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How about getting Android apps that are only in the Google Play Store?
Other than hack-installing Google Play Store (which I'd rather not do), isn't there some sort of hack for getting the .apk files from the website?

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There are several websites that deliver apk's. Once tried one and it worked. But because of being a bit afraid how trustfull these websites are, I normally use android program called APK extractor. It works so, that you install that to an real androis device (I happen to have couple lying around), install the app to your android device, then use the apk extractor to pull the apk and sent it to your Jolla (I prefer to sent it by bluetooth), Jolla installs it and voila, you have your app working from play store

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Just launched a topic on together.jolla.com
The way menu vs pully-menu is handled in the OS sometimes irritates me.

Share your thoughts if any;
https://together.jolla.com/question/...vs-long-press/

Kiitos!

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- succesfull import of contacts from N9 (Bluetooth sync)
- PC connection with Linux machine works (Ubuntu 13.10)
- succesfull import of GnuPG public and secret keys (gpg2)
-- encryption and decrypting of files works nicely with FingerTerm
- sdcard (FAT) soft linked to Music folder. Works fine.

I really enjoy using this phone!

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Seems like people are too lazy to do a Google search. If you'd do it, you'd discover there are literally dozens of methods for downloading APKs from Google Play. For example this site.

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I've been using that one for while now, the chrome extension and not the website tho, works fine, ofc can't download paid apps.

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Storypod is an Android application, yet it is promoted in the Jolla store.
I can understand somebody must have thought this is a really nice quality multimedia addition to demo the Android subsystem.

But beware... other Android applications of questionable origin and motives are already lurking in the Jolla store: (US) Military News for example.
And I accidentally installed it (swiped the wrong direction or something) so sadly I give it a hit in popularity.

It is way to easy to accidentally install unwanted applications in the Jolla store.

About the Vimeo HTML5 in Jolla browser: I couldn't confirm that.. maybe it is the browser end.
I notice when installing adblock , google analytics blockers and noscript anwyhere (NSA ;) ) it becomes much harder to get the video's running in Firefox w/o clear information on why.
They just demand flash to be installed or something which is in fact no longer needed.


A nice experience is that Jolla pauzes multimedia streams in full desktop sites upon incoming call, only to resume after the call.

No freezing of the phone (application) like on the N900 :) Or at lest the Jolla requires some crazier multitasking action than just a few concurrent web video's to choke the incoming phone calls.

Starting to love my Jolla. It must be said. :)

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After few days of getting to know each other I really started to like my Jolla. It works like fluid and UI looks so nice. :)

First it felt big and clumsy after N8 but I'm getting to used to the size. Keyboard, new way to navigate and web browsing really impress me. I already find it hard to use my old N8 or few android apps I tried. Well done Jolla!

Camera is not as bad as I feared. It is passable to recording fleeing memories providing adequate light. More serious work is for DSLR anyway.

Biggest letdown is Media player. My 100% Symbian Belle compilable music collection is missing album art and info from some of the albums, sometimes showing old information from date before organizing the library.

Should those symbols for WLAN etc. on setting cover activate function or is it going to require opening the full program every time?

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Hello got my Jolla today and have lot to do. :p

Anyone can point me that command to kill all android stuff?
Cant find it. :s

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Just do not install the Android support app, and there is nothing androidish in the device :)

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Uninstall or

systemctl stop aliendalvik.service

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Thanks. Just what I was looking for. :)

I want still use some Android applications but dont want to always run all Abdroid stuff.

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sorry, i just new to jolla from n9
As someone said can import vcf in people setting, but i only got import from sim only

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You first need to copy/download a vcf file to the device. Once it has been indexed it should show there.

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A week ago I shared my (slight disappointment)opinion about Jolla. I was wondering if it is unpolished diamond, or just a shiny piece of glass.
Within this week Jolla grew on me in many respects. Mine main gripe was terrible battery life, which community discovered is easily fixable and it turned out that Jolla has one of the best power efficiency out there!
Most of the other issues and lacking features were acknowledged by Jolla team, and we were assured they are on the roadmap. Interaction between Jolla and the community gets better with every day, and it has been only a month since the launch!
So I am pretty much confident I carry an unpolished chunk of diamond in my pocket now! :)

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I agree, hope this device will reach the N900 level in few months.

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Today I've put my LE "Poppy Red" TOH on my Jolla, it gave me sound Feedback but apart from that nothing else happens... Where are the new ambiances?

Btw: Where are the Android Apps and their media stored? I've installed a game with over 1GB, deinstalled it and my memory still remains the same. :confused:

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They seem to be located in sdcard/android/data or /obb.

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how to delete all contacts?? where its location??

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From my previous review things have gotten better:

This had already been made as easy as possible: all edge gestures do actually snooze the alarm. Actually this is better than my initial suggestion.

There's still lag below 10%, but thanks to deactivating tohd.service I've no more complaints about the battery/energy usage.

I've yet to inspect my problem with music player as I'm planning to buy either 32gb sdhc or 64gb sdxc microsd card with sd-card adapter to move all my music there and ditch my current microsd card that came with my Nokia. So more about that later.


More thoughts about user experience:

Mail: Should have "Mark all as read" option in pulley menu, or can they be marked as read from the "select messages" view? Still it would be more practical from the pulley menu.

People vs. contacts: I added contacts from the sim-card yet they didn't show in the telephone app (from the pulley menu >> call a person). I actually had to initiate a call to each of them manually from the "People" application for them to show as contacts in the telephone app / call a person section. Extra info: my contacts brought from sim-card don't have either forenames or surnames which the people app absolute requires when adding a new person, they only have nickname fields filled. Don't know if it's linked to the problem.
Complaint: people app absolute requires people to have either forenames or surnames when adding new people, why isn't a nickname enough? It has a field for it yet the app doesn't let add a person if the nickname field is the only field filled.

Also, why not ask all the contacts from the sim-card to be imported right from the first device run / the first time the sim-card is attached? I had some (fairly minor) trouble finding the right place to import contacts from sim.

There's probably more but can't remember them all you know :p

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I just came back from a christmas holiday in Istanbul. Here's some thoughts on Jolla from a perspective of using it as the main communinication device during holiday abroad.

- Battery life really sucked and with lots of photography it really drained battery too quickly. This was overcome midway trhough my holiday thanks to the 'OH battery fix', which I discovered at midpoint of the holiday. After the fix I could get a days lenght, and more, out of the device.

- Camera is in its current state really bad. Even more so than I thought before the holiday. I had really only done few quick test shots before the trip. Basically the colour resolution and differentation is truly attrocious on it. I took so many pictures where the colours reminded me more about an acid trip than the actual object of the shot.... Low light performance is also horrible, but that one everyone propably already knows just from few test shots.

In fact, the camera is the only thing about the phone that makes it seem overpriced for me. I would certainly expect more from a camera in a 400 euro device. My hopeful spin would be that the situation might be mostly about beta-stage of photography bits in the OS, and the actual camera hardware could do better once its optimised on the software side.

-WLAN connection kept having strange drops. Just like with my home and work networks. Not a biggie, but a minor annoyance.

-GPS worked well enough when I had network access. Saved me once when I got lost amids the freaky curving medieval streets near the old roman city walls.

Finally here's a screenshot that shows A.) How the phone shows the status of being connected to a foreign network (Saunalahti my finnish provider and Vodafone TR is the turkish network). B.) What the camera can do at its best. The bird shot in the theme is taken with Jolla. Pretty impressive shot on moving birds (IMHO).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...1226224722.jpg



EDIT: The 3G data counter zeroed once I connected to the turkish network. Just now noticed that it has returned to showing correctly the data used on my domestic provider.

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Am I the only one who is still experiencing the wifi bug?

aka "known networks get removed and stay invisible" -bug

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Ok, thanks. But I cannot delete the file ("Delete Failed!") with the File Browser... For data/dalvik-cache for instance it worked. :confused:

P.S. Now - after second time - attaching the Poppy Red TOH I had the option to download the "The First One" Ambiance.

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Does anybody know how to get my calendar data from my N900 to my Jolla? Tried it with Bluetooth but that didn't work.

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If it hasn't been mentioned before (thread is 235 pages now).
When the phone shuts the screen off after the timout, every time its going back to the home screen. One have to move down to the running applications and maximize the one that was running. I'm started to getting tired of that. There should be an option in settings to choose the behavior after screen blanking.

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@Larswad
Yes, it is noticed and is in Jolla to-do list. Check it out and vote here: https://together.jolla.com/question/...st-active-app/

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I have the power consumption measured from the Jolla:

http://youtu.be/yirPEaMdW3E

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Sorry if this came out already or posting in the wrong thread, but any idea if Android widgets work on sailfish? Would be good to make some use of the best ones in the notification or multitasking screen, for example. Are Live updates or similar in android apps visible on sailfish in any way? Or does the app needs to be in the foreground to see otherwise background updates and notifications? Is there for example a weather info from a android app showing anywhere in the notifications/lock screen?
Thanks

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sometimes android whatsapp seem cant reconnect, until i reopen it

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Think of it as a emulator/virtual machine. So, no widgets. Notification come through, but the app needs to be behind some other app, as otherwise it'll think it's visible for you.

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After one week of usage I can't wait for next jPhone. It will be epic with more mature software and hardware. I enjoyed the waiting room more than the actual product :D

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jphone is a terrible name

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+1874862858469735984983
10 chars :D

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always makes me think of this

http://zoey101.wikia.com/wiki/Drippin'_Episode!




or another fruity-ish phone from another manufacturer

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If android widgets cannot be used, then at least a solution to increase the interactivity with future native Sailfish apps might be helpfull. The tiles in the multitasking screen is a good solution but limited to the size of the rectangles/tiles. Also, some apps dont need much interaction when running in background and their tile might be taking precious space on the limited multitasking screen from others. Perhaps the size of the tile could be changed for each app by the user for apps which are likely to be used mostly in background but provides frequent updates and/or interactivity. In that case, horizontal scrolling/swipe in the multitasking screen would be more convenient to accomodate more tiles? I guess this has been discussed before, so I leave it there.

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jPhone is an excellent name. A product needs a name simular to Jolla's OS. To call the product jolla is just the worst idea. jPhone it is until Jolla comes up with a product line name.

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Jolla is excellent name, it gives the premium vibe. Also, the OS is named Sailfish..

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Jolla gives a premium vibe? Only in Finland...
Sailfish is standalone as brand. That's OK. Jolla isn't. Can name it:
Jolla FE(first edition)