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Karel Jansens 2008-06-21 13:04

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by JBHemlock (Post 194012)
Some of the commercial HWR systems do learn your writing. The biggie I can think of is Paragraph/Calligrapher, which was the original Newton HWR engine, and is still around in various devices. It's a dictionary-based recognizer, so it tries to recognize entire words, and gets trained when you make word corrections.

On the entire ParaGraph/CalliGrapher/PenOffice/PhatWare/RitePen issue, here's an excerpt of part of an email conversation I had with one of the RiteScript people (in a -- semi-successfull -- attempt to interest them in Linux and the Nokia Itablets. Just to un-muddy the waters on the issue of what exactly happened to Newton's HWR after -- well, the Newton:

"It's exactly the other way around: PenOffice has been created by our team (former ParaGraph International then Pen&Internet division of SGI and Vadem) and is based on our CalliGrapher HWR technology. After Microsoft acquired our technologies from the company we've been part of in '99, Phatware (run by our friend and former partner who used to bundle CalliGrapher with his HTC Notes program) stepped forward and licensed PenOffice from that company..."

And yes, I've been confirmed that RiteScript is seriously considering the emerging Linux market, but is (unrealistically?) afraid of the "culture of everything for free" in the Linuxverse.


silvermain 2008-06-21 23:08

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
Has any one been able to get the keyboard from exideas to work on the nit? It is set up to allow 120+ shortcuts.

bunanson 2008-06-22 12:54

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by silvermain (Post 194185)
Has any one been able to get the keyboard from exideas to work on the nit? It is set up to allow 120+ shortcuts.

Yes, via GVM, and works beautifully. Unfortunately, the 120+ shortcuts are with Graffiti, right? And it does NOT work or I do not know how to make it work.

No. They do not have a version for the tablet. Do you happen to have a hacked one? I like that OSkeyboard.


TIA,

bun

GeraldKo 2008-06-22 18:27

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 194064)
Couldn't someone put together a Grafitti rip that would be easily installed? That would be great. I suspect there is a way to do it that is not illegal, though Nokia couldn't, I am sure.

It seems to me that lm2 sort of did that, no? I would guess that the modified HWR database he made resides in a single file, that he could upload it, and that a user could download it and have, pretty much, graffiti. That you could even swap out the standard HWR file and the graffiti-ized one at will. I don't know what file it is though.

bunanson 2008-06-23 05:36

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 194360)
... .
The Second-Easiest Way to Clone the OS to MMC, Dual-Boot; try here first .
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I saw your new signiture. Kind of cute ;) . Did some BIG BAD BULLY BAIT make you do it? :mad: Not even a duel? :eek: Dont worry, your Way is always my chosen FIRST-Easiest Way............

Hey Hey, BB PB, it just a joke..........


bun

Benson 2008-06-24 03:57

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
I'm having grief; lost my MBR on the SD, hence no access to all those (3) systems...
At a conference halfway across the nation, with only my new, still Vista-only, laptop as backup. I'm trying Debian Lenny gpart (dpkg -i --force-depends-versioned into Chinook) as I speak; if I get things back, I'll try the typing experiment on the laptop and the N800 (with pseudoGraffiti) and post results.

(I'm open to suggestions to fix this; AFAIK, the partition table is all that's broken, and there's at least 4 Linux utilities and a couple of Windows (but not, AFAICT, Vista) sharewares that should do the trick by hunting around, recognizing old filesystems, and rebuilding the partition table from that; gpart is among them, and if it fails, I'll try to find the others. (I lost access to my build system, too, of course, so I can't build them from source at the moment... debian may have more, though, if I get that far.) I'm in no great need of advice (yet), or I'd start another thread, but it's welcome if someone has something to say...)

magog 2008-06-24 04:32

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by briand (Post 194027)
On completely the same subject -- I seriously doubt I'll achieve that speed on the tablet -- the BT keyboard isn't responsive enough, so I have to type slower or it'll completely miss several characters... never mind trying to achieve that speed using the on-screen keyboard!

I type between 60-80 wpm, and I find my BT keyboard is too slow for me. Have you tried a USB keyboard to see if it's any faster? I've been condsidering it.


Michael

bunanson 2008-06-26 03:34

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
Another advantage of using HWR: it allows one to insert character between 2 characters. Say, you typed "shotcuts", and you can write a letter 'r' between letters 'o' and 't' carefully, it will squeez out a space to make the word "shortcuts". Obviously, you cannot do this with OSKeyboard.

HWR learning curve continues. I have achieved 100% accuracy by now, speed remains low though. I hope I will NOT be the only one in the whole solar system to use HWR on the tablet........maybe some Martian will be my companion, just a thought.





bun

sp-tor 2008-06-26 13:28

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
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Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 195986)
Another advantage of using HWR: it allows one to insert character between 2 characters. Say, you typed "shotcuts", and you can write a letter 'r' between letters 'o' and 't' carefully, it will squeez out a space to make the word "shortcuts". Obviously, you cannot do this with OSKeyboard.

You can. You just have to position the cursor there, then enter the missing letter. In xterm you have to use the d-pad to go left (or a ctrl-b if you have it easily available), but UI oriented apps should allow you to use the stylus to set the cursor.

bunanson 2008-06-26 18:32

Re: I finally found you:shortcuts for repetitive typing!
 
And another obvious tip, you can just write over the wrong letters, i.e., you do not have to erase it, or delete it first, just write on top of it. Overall, I think there is quite some advantage in using HWR vs OSkeyboard, if one willing to go thru the learning curve.


bun


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