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Laughing Man 2009-03-26 01:40

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
I forgot about adapters. If that's the case, and the tablet comes with sizable amounts of memory then perhaps it doesn't need an SDHC slot. Though big capacity micro cards are expensive compared to SDHC right now!

attila77 2009-03-26 02:09

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 274693)
I forgot about adapters. If that's the case, and the tablet comes with sizable amounts of memory then perhaps it doesn't need an SDHC slot.

No, no, it's clear you have to adapt size and slots of a next-gen 400$ device to the format of your existing 20$ component and not vice versa ! :D

Quote:

Though big capacity micro cards are expensive compared to SDHC right now!
The 'big capacity' sticker is a moving target anyway, nowadays the price difference starts to show at 16GB, probably will be closer to 32GB when the RX51 will be in full swing. But even today at 16GB it's not really a stellar difference.

Laughing Man 2009-03-26 02:17

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Another problem is, the reason why I bought SD was its' somewhat of a standard (versus say Sony memory sticks which are usually only usable for Sony products). The SD cards can be used for cameras, the tablet currently, etc..

I was hoping they would be able to shrink the hardware used to read the cards, since the card itself doesn't take up that much space.

glabifrons 2009-03-26 05:13

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
1 770 running newest official OS (wife claimed that one quickly, still loves it)
1 770 running newest HE (2008? been a while)
1 N800 running newest update of Diablo... though prepping to dual-boot using 16GB SDHC with Ubuntu when it stabilizes.

Love the 770 because of the hard shell & the very smooth touchpad (doesn't require software smoothing to make it barely usable).

Love the N800 because of the forward facing speakers, the dual (full-sized) SD(HC) slots, standard USB connector (I have enough cables in my bag, I like that 1 will work with 5 of them), the external D-pad, and the adjustable/recessable quasi-covert camera.

Decided against the N810 for all the reasons mentioned above, plus the fact that it is missing critical keys for Unix command-line work, while adding keys that are utterly useless in this country (USA). Seriously, if they're going to have country-specific versions of the devices, they should have country-specific keyboards. No reason to have keys no-one will ever use in the target market.

I'm hoping the new one will have at least some of the nice features of the N800... but I'm very likely to get it solely for what we already know about it.

Oh, and I hate the power-supply connector on all of them. Who designed that thing? Could they make it more fragile?

glabifrons 2009-03-26 05:14

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Site is acting really weird today... submitted the above post and it gave me an error saying I have to wait 30 seconds before posting again, please wait another 15 seconds.
I looked, and my post wasn't there.
I tried again, and it posted twice!

icke 2009-03-26 08:47

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
I own a n810.

The final decision for it was the built in GPS system. Friends were pestering me to buy me a GPS receiver for some time. They got me hooked up with geocaching. But truth be told, time constraints limit my activities quite drastically. What I don't like its the weak processor that can not play most videopodcasts smoothly. Nevertheless, I am quite happy with my jack of all trades and do not plan to buy the new device in the near future.

icke

benny1967 2009-03-26 09:05

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 274696)
No, no, it's clear you have to adapt size and slots of a next-gen 400$ device to the format of your existing 20$ component and not vice versa ! :D

IIRC, my camera was a little more than $20.

benny1967 2009-03-26 09:21

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 274502)
The problem in understanding in general seems to be between 1. those who think of the Nokia tablet as an isolated device, where only its "own" needs matter, and 2. those who use the Nokia tablet as a central interchange point for a bunch of other devices. Nokia as a company tends to think the first way (the exception being the lucid folks behind the N800), presumably because they make phones: You install a card, whatever type, and that's it. No interoperability needed. That's fine for some, but not for others. Thus this discussion comes up time and again.

Very good point, indeed.

But in fact, Nokia phones have a tradition of being more open towards other devices than other manufacturer's models. (Just think of earphones... standard plugs vs. who-knows-what)

Maybe with the tablets they could have done more, but again, compared to what other manufacturers do, they seem to understand that interoperability and connectivity is a crucial point and multiplies the value of a device for the customer.

Yet you're right that there seems to be a tendency within Nokia that ignores these facts. (See the UI discussions going on elsewhere.) It is, of course, tempting to say that a powerful €400-device should be able to fulfil most of a customer's needs and should concentrate on what it can do on its own, not what other devices could add to its value. As customers, we know how wrong this is. I do understand, though, that you can fall into this trap when you face tight deadlines and reduced budgets.

hns 2009-03-26 10:28

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
I bought a N800 when the N810 came out, and just yesterday got a used N810 from a friend.

What struck me is that the N810 touchscreen is so much more sensitive (and enjoyable) than the one on my old N800. I always have to use the stylus or my finger nails on my N800, while the N810 reacts to the lightest touch already. Is that just my N800, or are touch screens that different between models?

attila77 2009-03-26 11:01

Re: Which IT device do you own?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 274738)
IIRC, my camera was a little more than $20.

That was a joke (yes, I know, my sense of humour is nothing to write ome about). Your camera would work just as fine with microSD in a SD adapter, just as any other SD device. The only investment here to protect are your existing SD cards. Anything else, and it's back to why a SD investment should be protected and not a, say, CF one (in which you could stick SD anyway). One could also argue that two slots add additional functionality that you would not have otherwise, regardless of the card format (like my personal 2 micro over 1 SD preference). But the topic has been beaten to death and the only consensus here is that there is no consensus, no matter what the RX51 choice is/will be, someone will be disappointed. No further replies on my part.


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