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lma 2009-08-11 07:58

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 310721)
All this fuzz about osso-xterm... Why don't you simply add yourselves to https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osso-xterm/ and start contributing there? :)

Speaking of which, there's been a disappointing lack of response to bug 3929 (Requesting integration of some community supplied XTerm enhancements) so far. Just bringing it up here in case the right people have not seen it yet.

tso 2009-08-11 08:23

Re: RX-51 Tablet picture released at Engadget
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 310731)
This is why I'm surprised about speculation on a piece of software that has open source code, is open to contributions and can be tested in the Fremantle SDK since the alpha release. :)

unless i have missed a VM release, the SDK appears to be a ***** to set up, especially if all you plan on doing is toy around...

Milhouse 2009-08-11 09:28

Re: RX-51 Tablet picture released at Engadget
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 310742)
Speaking of which, there's been a disappointing lack of response to bug 3929 (Requesting integration of some community supplied XTerm enhancements) so far. Just bringing it up here in case the right people have not seen it yet.

I must admit I was biting my tongue over that bug. :)

@Quim: Good to see Nokia finally giving you the resources you and your team have deserved from it's inception. It's pretty obvious Nokia are now in an awkward situation with Symbian floundering for the next 12-18 months and Maemo left as their potential "get out of jail free" card.

The RX-51 hardware looks nice and certainly has the spec to succeed, although it's too early to say anything about the UI on Maemo5 as it's yet to be seen in it's fully glory (maybe it's time to "leak" some YouTube videos!)

As ever it's likely the rest of Nokia and their knuckle headed management will be your biggest obstacles to success, but hopefully the grim future facing Nokia in the high-end device market will ensure such obstacles are cleared from your path with the minimum of fuss.

One challenge that still needs to be addressed is the need for more openness in the bug filing & reporting process from Nokia/Maemo engineers - in future Maemo will need a community, developers and mind-share more than ever! :)

fms 2009-08-11 10:22

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Originally Posted by drizek (Post 310208)
If they add a bar at the bottom of the terminal which has all our favorite buttons, it would be the best of both worlds. That way you won't even have to press a modifier key to get buttons like pipe or tilde.

Oh, god, please, not the bottom again! The screen has got some extra (in terms of 4:3 terminal window ratio) space on the side. Add it to a side! Do not take precious vertical space.

GeneralAntilles 2009-08-11 12:47

Re: RX-51 Tablet picture released at Engadget
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 310731)
This is why I'm surprised about speculation on a piece of software that has open source code, is open to contributions and can be tested in the Fremantle SDK since the alpha release. :)

Easy, because what's apparently open code, isn't actually open code at all (see Hildon), but old code or only partially updated code that's sitting in a repo waiting for the go-ahead to release the real code.

Open is OK when things are actually open, but as it stands, half the "open" components out there are nothing of the sort. Then by the time they actually attain real open status again after a release Nokia is going to have moved on into maintenance mode and wont expend any effort on addressing community bugs and enhancement requests (not even, seemingly, when those bugs comes with perfectly good patches).

So, no, you can't have it both ways here. Either you actually do your development in the community by getting your developers and managers out and participating in the community and stop with the code-over-the-wall insanity or you end this "open" fiction.

daperl 2009-08-11 14:43

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Oh, god, please, not the bottom again! The screen has got some extra (in terms of 4:3 terminal window ratio) space on the side. Add it to a side! Do not take precious vertical space.

Where there's a will there's a way. I know I'm a crappy UI designer, but someone has to come up with an elegant solution to save vertical real estate in landscape mode.

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fpp 2009-08-11 14:52

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ROTFL... I believe it was all about the toolbar, not the virtual keyboard :-)

daperl 2009-08-11 15:02

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 310828)
ROTFL... I believe it was all about the toolbar, not the virtual keyboard :-)

I'm glad I was able to give you a good chuckle, but my point was that everything can go on the side, even a keyboard. :)

fms 2009-08-11 17:16

Re: RX-51 Tablet picture released at Engadget
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 310827)
Where there's a will there's a way. I know I'm a crappy UI designer, but someone has to come up with an elegant solution to save vertical real estate in landscape mode.

I hate to disappoint you, but there is much easier way to have a decent on-screen keyboard in XTerm. Simply overlay it over entire screen: as XTerm itself rarely requires mouse input, you can just as well use the whole screen as a virtual keyboard.

PS: In fact, this modification has already been applied to the current Diablo XTerm, quite successfully.

tso 2009-08-11 17:19

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anywhere one can download said modded xterm?


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