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Why wouldn't an iPhone be able to use this plan? I know a lot of unlocked iPhones using Tmobile already, and isn't ATT about to lose their exclusive rights to it anyway?

I think this would (if true) be a bigger game changer for Tmobile than Nokia. Now, if they had come out with this n900 + 50 all you can eat plan earlier in the iPhone's life they could have seriously put a dent in the market.

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For the same reason why AT&T is having trouble and is thinking about implementing data caps on the heavy data iPhone users. Honestly I think people should stop with the "unlimited" and just give you a hard limit of say 10 GBs a month.

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So what will be the difference between an iPhone and N900 in terms of data usage? The habits of who they think the generalized users will be?

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If the n900 users overload the network I can imagine they'll start implementing the same caps they are now.

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most of the articles have said specifically that this project is not going to be a device launch or a promotional plan, so I don't know what else it could be except either 4g or some other fundamental shift in cell service price structure

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Something like n900 is downright scary for the operators. It can suck (or generate) immense amount of disruptive network traffic that their system was not designed for on stuffs like p2p, high res video broadcasts, mobile content hosting, etc.

I don't think it's realistic to expect truly unlimited data for <$50/month on cellular network..

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Oh don't worry it's "unlimited". Really, I don't understand why they just tell people what they're selling. Sure unlimited sounds nice but in reality your cap is going be around 10 GB a month if they're nice. Probably even less. If it's an advertising thing then you could always advertise "unlike other companies we don't lie to you about what we offer, don't believe us? Try to see how much data you can use before another company cuts you off, go ahead. See how "unlimited" it is".

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I just read all the little, fine details that are on contract/user agreement that you sign when first going with T-Mobile, with the unlimited smartphone data plan, the network usage cap is 20GB a month which in my opinion is more than enough for me.

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21mb HSDPA nation wide in 2010.

Was it only me that saw Tmob doing this, it seemed the only play available to crack the US market.

(now wheres that smug button...) :p

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The T-Mobile claim is that the announcement is a "game changer". The "game" is that T-Mobile is #4 in subscribers, with the smallest 3G network. Going 4G is not going to attract a significant number of subscribers when most don't even have a 3G capable smartphone. Only a pricing plan radically low enough to attract a significant new set of subscribers could do that.

That new plan would have to be cheap enough to (a) make it worthwhile for subscribers locked-in to other carriers to pay a cancellation penalty to move to T-Mobile, and (b) attract prepaid subscribers from other networks.

We'll see. I'm skeptical that T-Mob will do it, but I'd love to see a price war in the US wireless market.