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NvyUs 2010-04-08 19:48

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
why are you scared to be identified via your IMEI when your identified on 100's of CCTV cameras daily without your knowledge.
i'd rather people protest about DNA data base and CCTV and email data bases than about them knowing your IMEI
your phone is a choice you don't have to buy one but you DNA is in forever and if certain members of government in various countries get there way people will be put in DNA archives from birth

emeni 2010-04-08 20:01

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private, so it's harder for someone to access them,
while with IMEI they can track you wherever they want without even struggling.
Anyhow, I understand that in some countries is illegal, due to the amount of stolen phones, but there is a thin line between privacy and big brother theory, which is very dangerous. Exactly like Google Cookies ;) which can lead to another story like the one where AOL disclosed it's database of cookies, and CNN managed to track that person down even if it didn't had any personal data (name, Social security number etc)
plus in my country it's not illegal, so I should be able to change it.

~phoenix~ 2010-04-08 20:09

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 601405)
There was a software I used (BB5) to debrand my brother's 5800. by altering the product code.. There was an option to change IMEI also, but I didnt want to risk it.

is there any software like this for the n900?


you probably used nemesis service siute... like i said... you CAN change the imei ... but you have to recalculate the securtyzones .... and this will be expensive...

NvyUs 2010-04-08 20:18

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emeni (Post 601564)
no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private.

nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.

NvyUs 2010-04-08 20:19

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emeni (Post 601564)
no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private.

when i mentioned CCTV i was not talking about local supermarkets i was talking about public spaces,nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.

nze 2010-04-08 20:22

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 601598)
nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.

UK != the World :)

neven 2010-04-08 20:22

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Siva zona. :)

IMEI information is usualy paired with your IMSI and can be stored by your operator in order to identify you as a user of some device so they can customize their offers for device dependent value added services, or to protect themselfs against abuse of sims embedded in special hardware. Usually a history of IMSI-IMEI pairs is kept and it is posible to trace any change in hardware for a selected sim. Police could requst this info from operators if court so orders, but IMHO it is not a practice for tracing stolen phones. I guess investigation costs much more then a stolen phone, and such events unless they are organized crime, or similar issue, are not interesting to the police.

You would be amazed how many IMEI duplicates one can find in a single network, and I can't imagine all the reasons why this is so, but it renders them useless for unique identification.

If you know how to, and in dilema to change imei or not. Just don't. Your device could be identifed as something else, and change itself can be noticed. :)

egoshin 2010-04-08 20:26

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emeni (Post 601516)
The police can track you down only using your IMEI,

Yes, it is true.

Quote:

if they want to
That is not true, at least in US. They need an approval. Without it they would be not serviced by provider who has all equipment. If they do and I know it I can be reach (I don't consider some extreme cases).

Quote:

Do they abuse it? hell yea, I know thousand of chases. I even abused the system asking a friend to track down someone, and my friend is at the low end of the chain of command.
I don't know and it is an exact reason why in Frankfurt there is an additional security for US flights. It is like Internet firewall. Sorry for you guys.

Astute 2010-04-08 20:29

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Changing the IMEI sounds as fishy as falsifying a motor vehicle's identification plate/vin.

Anyone smell a fish

NvyUs 2010-04-08 20:29

Re: Is changing IMEI possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nze (Post 601606)
UK != the World :)

i've not thought that or implied that
i'm telling people how it is here in UK and correcting outsiders how it is here when they think its different.
i can hardly go on about the big brother state of somewhere else when i've never lived there, i can only tell about my own experiences in my own country


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