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Texrat 2007-02-21 18:09
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
I think it's in Nokia's best interest to at least lead a PIM development effort. The "it's just an internet tablet" protest evaporated rapidly when the FM radio was acknowledged.

SD69 2007-02-21 18:27
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 35855)
I think it's in Nokia's best interest to at least lead a PIM development effort. The "it's just an internet tablet" protest evaporated rapidly when the FM radio was acknowledged.
Well, is there any reason to believe that Nokia will? It's been almost 18 months and even the email app is under-developed to be kind. They are pursuing the Skype/Rhapsody kind of apps.

Seb Per 2007-02-21 18:37
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sapporobaby (Post 35847)
Maybe snobbish was a bit strong, but sure it is like a clique of developers. This could be a great device but in many ways the community tends to turn people off. As an example, I had a few friends, one has the N800, and my wife, a Finn, try to go through the forum and see if they could find helpful hints. After just a few mins, they got frustrated and said that there is no way they would even bother to search for help here. This is not good as they are mainstream users, not techie types that only want a device that works. I am an engineer, not developer and feel that this forum is for sure slanted at developers and the users are sometimes left to fend for ourselves. For this device to take off, it has to appeal to the man in the street, not a closed group of users.

My $.02.
I agree w/ you on the 'mainstream' approach but maybe nokia doesnt want it to kill all the E series -running on symbian, owned by nokia-. i agree the extraordInary form factor and screen o the n800 make it the ideal candidate for a blockbuster if the PIM and apps mentioned in this thread emerge...

but again, the n800 support pages are quite mainstream (i use it a lot). my gut feeling is that this site applies to the ones who want to take the n800 a few steps further.

Seb

Astropin 2007-02-21 20:05
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffmings (Post 35212)
I have held onto my aging Sony Clie NX70 for about 4 years because I haven't found anything better. It syncs perfectly with my Mac, has a bigger screen than a treo, a keyboard, a camera, and a long battery life. Pocket PC devices abound, but require 1 to 3 steps more to do almost operation than is required under Palm OS.

Aloha,
-Jeff Mings
That's funny.....I still use a Sony Clie NR70V (now 5 years old) because I can't find a better PDA for my needs. Even when this one dies I will probably go to ebay to get another Clie. Unfortunately I still read on my Clie as well.....I would much rather read on the N800 but the only stuff I can find is Old classics or stuff I have never heard of. Sorry but I like popular Sci-Fi and other current novels.

fldude99 2007-02-21 20:08
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 35836)
I have exactly the same experience. That's why I ll get the n95 when it s out because I ll get a small phone 3.5G + 5 Mpx cam with autofocus, the PIM. and HOPEFULLY the n800 and the n95 share the same charger... or I ll have to buy a heavy multicharger (not even sure it ll work).

the other solution for you would have been to have two sim cards for the same number (possible here in Finland, elsewhere I don't know) : one in your small phone one in your Tytn. But still have to update PIMs in both :(

Cheers, Seb
As far as I know we cannot have 2 sims with the same number here in the US..at least not with Cingular..anybody know anything to the contrary?

sapporobaby 2007-02-21 20:23
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
I disagree here. Without some sort of phone, the N800 is dead weight. Sure it has wifi, but this not always handy. I have the N800 and a E61. Combined, I can reach the net all the time from virtually anywhere. I am not sure of the biz strategy of Nokia regarding the N800. It seems like an unfinished device. More of a, "you do it, no you do it, no you do it" device.

Seb Per 2007-02-21 20:24
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 35861)
Well, is there any reason to believe that Nokia will? It's been almost 18 months and even the email app is under-developed to be kind. They are pursuing the Skype/Rhapsody kind of apps.
a few remarks from a point of view close to nokia labs.
- nokia ships 1 million mobile phones a day, of which 30 000 smartphones. its peanuts to launch a new range of device to test a market segment. pre-market devices seem to be a common feature in the labs. furthermore there is internal competition.
- the n800 existence seems to show confidence after the 770
- the n in n800 would indicate convergence toward smartphones.

this makes me think that pim and business apps are not far away.

mconnick 2007-02-21 20:29
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
PIMonline, a free Web-based service, seems to work fine on the N800. Check it out at:

http://www.pimonline.com/

Michael

Seb Per 2007-02-21 20:34
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sapporobaby (Post 35882)
I disagree here. Without some sort of phone, the N800 is dead weight. Sure it has wifi, but this not always handy. I have the N800 and a E61. Combined, I can reach the net all the time from virtually anywhere. I am not sure of the biz strategy of Nokia regarding the N800. It seems like an unfinished device. More of a, "you do it, no you do it, no you do it" device.
totally agree on the 770 but see how the n800 is an improvement in design. i d say the marketing guys in nokia have identified a real market and joined the development team. soon they will demand necessary improvements.

Seb Per 2007-02-21 20:51
Re: The N800 _MUST_ have a good PIM to succeed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 35820)
What exactly do you do with those Google apps (the precious few that work with the Internet Tablets' browsers, that is) when you find yourself out of internet reach? Can you even run them if there's no internet?

BTW: No, Google Docs and Spreadsheets don't even work with Opera.
have you tried zoho spreadsheets? i just opened their test file and surprise i can open it w/ opera...
they also have word processor and powerpoint. i ll check further...

f....k! feeding data freezes the page. forget it


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