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Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

Any Updates ???????????????????????

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

maybe could you try to compile DuiHome
on Meego Preview Release
and get running on N900,

look here :
http://qt.gitorious.com/maemo-6-ui-framework

then you'll have an OS with Qt Handset UI from Nokia running on your N900 !!!

PLEEEEEEEASE do it !!

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

For those wanting updates, we now work in the open for most issues. Just had our first public synchronisation meeting as well.

Our primary page is http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 with agendas and meeting minutes.

Keep in mind our work is hardware adaptation and we don't really have much to do with the user experiences and nothing to do with productization. However, those into kernels on N900, drivers, how to port MeeGo, we're a good thing to follow :)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

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Intro/ working mode (Hah, 06:05:10)

1. As you know from some of my emails, we are now operating as open project (Hah, 06:05:37)
2. That means everybody can join, propose and do some work related to N900 hw adaptation (Hah, 06:06:06)
3. We don't have to do list yet, that is one of the first things of course tbd (Hah, 06:11:02)
4. Testing of course makes more sense after 1.0 relase next week (Hah, 06:12:03)
5. we haven't really discussed dividing out tasks in a open manner - one way could be the bugtracker, but not sure where we belong there (Stskeeps, 06:12:36)
6. So far we have mostly contributed Fremantle sw towards upstream/meego (Hah, 06:13:40)
7. Now we are approacing the point where we have enough functionality for others to join and help (Hah, 06:14:51)

Fingers-crossed this happens (my nipples itch just thinking about it)

However:

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# May Release blockers ? (Hah, 06:15:26)

1. There will be MeeGo release in may, likely on next week (Hah, 06:16:33)
2. waiting to be merged is sgx, audio, bluetooth, watchdog and battery charging suppotr (Stskeeps, 06:23:12)
3. IDEA: we need to have a N900 kernel package maintainer on board the kernel package maintainers group. this should speed up N900 related merge requests. (quadros, 06:23:51)
4. IDEA: or alternatively, the ARM platform maintainer role being put into place (Stskeeps, 06:24:19)
5. As we are very late with N900 adaptation, some kind of hack is maybe needed for 1.0 (Hah, 06:25:04)
6. There has been some discussion going on about these maintainer roles (Hah, 06:26:50)
7. for N900 example. I hope TSG will come up with some nominations at some point (Hah, 06:27:40)

Yikes!

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Status update (Hah, 06:42:11)

1. Kernel support for BME ? (Hah, 06:42:52)
2. IDEA: , shouldn't bme be disabled till this cpu hogging issue is fixed? (quadros, 06:45:30)
3. There is a problem with BME eating 95% of CPU .. (Hah, 06:47:54)
4. Some internal work on that is needed, as BME is closed component (Hah, 06:49:58)
5. and at this I don't expect that it will be opended as such (Hah, 06:50:56)
6. Potential open version of BME needs project of it's own, if someone is interested (Hah, 06:51:43)
7. there has been some community rumblings from former openmoko people who know the battery charging chip well in regard to open charging, but that's a thing to be discussed how to deal with if it turns out to work (Stskeeps, 06:51:58)

Booohhhh!

At last a proper open n900 is looking more likely.

(Huge thanks to everyone that is making this possible)

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

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Originally Posted by johnel (Post 667309)

Fingers-crossed this happens (my nipples itch just thinking about it)

<comment about hack>

<comment about BME being 99% CPU>

(Huge thanks to everyone that is making this possible)

Regarding hack, we've moved to a full mainline 2.6.33 kernel and upstreamed things - I'm personally not surprised we're a bit late to have it integrated, enormous effort.

At least we're noting something is wrong and we need to fix it ;)

However, please set your expectations right:

08:10:54 <Hah> UI for N900 will not be part of May release

This is part of TSG decision to move Handset UX release to a little after May release, it was mentioned and indicated at the previous TSG meeting.

However, as you can see, in our little part of the world, a lot of effort is going in.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 667324)

Regarding hack, we've moved to a full mainline 2.6.33 kernel and upstreamed things - I'm personally not surprised we're a bit late to have it integrated, enormous effort.

At least we're noting something is wrong and we need to fix it ;)

However, please set your expectations right:

08:10:54 <Hah> UI for N900 will not be part of May release

This is part of TSG decision to move Handset UX release to a little after May release, it was mentioned and indicated at the previous TSG meeting.

However, as you can see, in our little part of the world, a lot of effort is going in.

This is fair enough. It makes sense to get the foundation right before releasing the gui.

Will the "May" release be functionally "complete" (using the term very loosely!)?

E.g. The foundation has call-making software and BME support.

If that is the case the UI - to a certain extent is "not that important".

If a "fully" functional foundation is released then will there be an ability to install your own gui and possible write your own gui apps for n900 MeeGo.
In theory could you write a phone app similar to what is available in maemo now?

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However, as you can see, in our little part of the world, a lot of effort is going in

Absolutely, considering the time it took to get this far is impressive and an enormous achievement.

You should be proud of yourselves!

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

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Originally Posted by johnel (Post 667356)

E.g. The foundation has call-making software and BME support.

If that is the case the UI - to a certain extent is "not that important".

If a "fully" functional foundation is released then will there be an ability to install your own gui and possible write your own gui apps for n900 MeeGo.
In theory could you write a phone app similar to what is available in maemo now?

Provided the ofono stack is up to par, then yes. BME is kinda needed, a OS without charging is annoying to work with.

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

Correct me if I'm wrong: What we're getting is a vanilla MeeGo release with Harmattan UX. But unlike next MeeGo-Harmattan phone, our OS will be using RPM instead of DEB right?

Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

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Originally Posted by Optln (Post 670726)

Correct me if I'm wrong: What we're getting is a vanilla MeeGo release with Harmattan UX. But unlike next MeeGo-Harmattan phone, our OS will be using RPM instead of DEB right?

Regarding the what the MeeGo release with Handset UX contains, you'll have to look at sources otherwise than the hardware adaptation here. This project deals with making MeeGo Core + an eventual UX work great on the N900.

You're right however, that it's RPM based.