Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

a billion symbian^2/3 phones on the market? where?

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

What gets me is you bounce wildly between wide, sweeping attacks on open source as a whole, then narrowing down to Nokia's mishandling and poor communication when it suits you. Then you suggest that open source is wholly not viable, despite the widespread evidence that this is not true.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

To be fair it didn't use to be open sourced. Nokia only open sourced it a couple years ago.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

This is a forums dedicated to an operating system that runs on a Nokia phone. I'm sorry if this offends you. But it is a problem that has implications elsewhere in the opensource community, so I bring that up too.

Don't get me wrong. When I need an operating system to back up some files from my Windows machine I'll go straight to linux (unless I get an ms home server license with my MSDN sub sometime since it's pretty much plug and play.)

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone os brought us?
 

Actually no, I see those who try to fight against the current human society and its progress as the enemy.

Well, what's your excuse? I at least know Stockholm syndrome when I see it

The solution is to stop *****ing and get a job

And you aren't? Please, I hear enough of this garbage from the pinguin club.

The entire gaming industry, for one.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone os brought us?
 

So you see the RIAA, MPAA, and those who keep pushing to extend copyright law and cripple internet communications as the enemy... right?

And your suggestion that open source software is a fight against progress is quite hilarious.

Man, this is why I'd ban you if I could. Stop painting people with a brush that's convenient, even if it is wholly wrong.

This comment makes no ****ing sense.

Games aren't proof that closed source software is -better-.

Also, I don't have any opposition to closed source software, I run Windows on my desktop and have a Steam install tracking well over 20 games.

I'm sorry, what was your point again? I mean, other than ignorantly bashing people whose processes and motives you fail utterly to understand?

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

How about android and apple phones that do everything that one would expect a phone to do, while an "open source" (I use the term lightly because it's not really) phone doesn't.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

No, you were given an example that you asked for, and then changed the terms because you didn't want to admit you were wrong.


Yes, there are proprietary components to every bit of hardware. Tell me, do you have the complete source for your BIOS? How about the source for the firmware your CD reader uses to read CDs? Even in open source systems not everything is open. If the API is established and documented enough, it doesn't have to be open to be functional.

I note you didn't say anything about FireFox? An example of a very stable and reputable OpenSource system... Doesn't that qualify for your definition of a "finished product"? If not, then please tell me how it does while something like IE/Windows is different.

It was hardly kneejerk, and I did read the thread. In fact, I was debating if I should even chime in, since clearly you've set yourself up for failure here (with your "one example" bit), and will never admit that you were wrong.

As for the post from the OP, asking what has this open source brought us: Lots.

The internet would not be what it is today without OpenSource. Apache, Mosaic, Mozilla, FireFox, POP servers/clients. Everything the modern person perceives as "the web" is based on OpenSource programs. Even the now closed proprietary systems (like IIS, Exchange, and the like) are modeled around emulating the protocols and functionality started by OpenSource programs.

What has the linux phone/tablet market brought to us? Quite a bit, though it may not be completely obvious to you quite yet. It wasn't obvious in 1992 how a Finnish kid and a little group of friends working on a mini-Unix kernel would change anything either. Nor was it obvious in 1993 that Mosaic and Apache were about to change the face of the internet. This is just the start... But I can tell you as someone that's participated in such things in the past, you can never be sure which thing turns into a rocket and which sputters out.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone os brought us?
 

It looks to me like you've learned some small bit of psychobabble and you want to apply it to everything. You would have to write a thesis to support your wild comparison and I doubt it would be read or approved.

Re: what has "open source" and "linux" phone/tablet maemo os brought us?
 

My apologies its only 330 million devices, with another 100 million in 2010, all running open sourced symbian irrespective of how it got there. I beleive Google just open sourced a certain video codec, and Qt was open sourced from more restrictive roots. There must be something to this open sourcing "crap".