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Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

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Originally Posted by NokTokDaddy (Post 745919)

I don't know how long most of you keep your devices, but I tend to change every 18 months or so.

Thank you for throwing a perfectly working device in the nearest landfill (or having it "recycled" somewhere).
I'm also guilty of this, but at least I try to use my devices for many years.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

I keep my old phones (and computers)as back-up or sell them, I don't throw them away.

Anyway, what's the point in having another Android phone? Diversity is a good thing isn't it? Nokia can still sell good phones and provide a solid platform for us even though it isn't the biggest player in the segment (just like Linux in the desktop, it isn't any worse just because it's got a few percent of the market).

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

Jeez, every 18 months? I tend to hold onto mine for a few years.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

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Originally Posted by volt (Post 747233)

but the model isn't two years old. It's more like a year and a half.

From announcement to today, it's over 24 months. From release to today, it's 20 months. That's more than 18 months and yes... you appear to be splitting hairs.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 747256)

The problem is, they did it by moving to Android. Samsung are trying to replicate Motorolla's success with Droid by building on Android with the Galaxy brand and have forecast a huge increase in sales over the next financial year. HTC became a major player in the US market through their links with Android. There's a common thread, and Nokia has ruled out that option.

Motorola internally had no real scalable smartphone OS. Samsung has Bada - which is still coming. Big difference there.

Motorola had played with the concept of going to Linux - I swear their A1200 Ming was Linux based (don't quote me) but it never got released outside of Asia from my understanding.

Motorola dug their way out of their hole mainly by doing marketing right. The Droid is only an mediocre phone.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

Motorola had a series of Linux based 'smartphones' back then... I've had the E680 and A760, both were utter shite even for the period. They must be ecstatic with the Android after those long periods of failed effort to 'make use of Linux'.

(I didn't know about the Ming, I thought they'd shelf their linux effort after the early craps).

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

Yeah... Ming and even the RAZR V3X and above were supposed to get a new Linux based OS, and it... well they sucked something fierce. I remember the E680, and I remember the nice hole in the wall it made by one of my (then) clients because it would interrupt phone calls at its own leisure.

That... was a funny day.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

yeah... the market is.... funny...

What do you guys make of this:

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HTC confirmed on Friday that it is not going to produce a slate device in the immediate future; despite earlier rumors that the mobile handset giant had an Android and possibly Chrome version in the works. Eric Lin, the Global PR and online community manager for HTC, had this to say about tablets:

“We are always looking at it, but, right now, the whole idea is that in order to be successful with a tablet, you need to have something compelling. And not just a compelling form factor. You need to find that compelling use, that compelling story, that one compelling feature. And we are not going to do anything until we have found that”

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...tablet-market/

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 747312)

Motorola dug their way out of their hole mainly by doing marketing right. The Droid is only an mediocre phone.

Well, they gave customers what they wanted. I would disagree with your mediocrity statement--the Droid is a GREAT phone, works VERY well as a phone for me. It's a mediocre computer--but even that seems to be getting better with the 3.0 being bandied about. The N900, by contrast, is an excellent little computer but an incredibly poor phone.

Personally, I rather like Android, but then I had rather liked Maemo quite a lot until I had to deal with Nokia for support.

That's the other element that nobody's mentioning, though. Motorola and Verizon (even with their notorious record) provide far superior support of their customers than Nokia ever does. Apple, for all the issues you want to point out, have a physical presence dotted all throughout the country. STORES with actual representatives you can talk to and they answer questions and help you with getting repairs, even if it costs you through the nose to get them repaired. But! At least you GET customer service. Nokia isn't even willing to take our money to provide support.

I know this is veering far from the original topic, but when you compare Nokia to Motorola and how Motorola pulled themselves back up through marketing, keep in mind that Motorola may have also managed to do it by not sacrificing customer support and accessorizing. People want options--even if it costs money.

Re: “This isn’t the iPhone. I mean, who cares about Nokia?”

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 747268)

Jeez, every 18 months? I tend to hold onto mine for a few years.

few years?!? :D

I barely can wait 12 months if there are better devices available...