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imperiallight 2010-07-17 23:10

Re: Nokia : We prioritize antenna performance over physical design
 
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I thin you should re-read Nokia's statement again. There is a part that Nokia said MeeGo will be available for N900 but only be the source code and the rest will be the community contribution. There is no official support from Nokia. N900 may be the developer choice of device for meeGo but not the official device to support it.
Basically Nokia will frustrate you so much with slowness and lack of functionality on the n900 that you end up buying the newer device.

Standard

windows7 2010-07-17 23:50

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papa Jobs knows that the end users are not techy,
so he just tries to water the problem and shift the blame somewhere else, just like he did not so long ago when adobe (flash) refused to go along with papa Jobs rules and a few days later papa Jobs used the publicity in his favour, shifting the blame and the media put out his twisted version of the story.

You just watch how to media will write a few articles on this situation and soon everything will be water under the bridge.


Enough from me about papa Jobs monopoly.

Nokia owning symbian, due to the lack of apps on the n900, nokia should release a Symbian emulator for us to run some of the great symbian apps available. If they cannot create an emulator then maybe they should release the symbian source code for the community to come up with something, then we could share the symbian success on the n900, as well as everything else.

It certainly would offer some competition to apple.

samuch 2010-07-18 00:01

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How did Nokia manage to get this statement out so quick? I certainly didn't expect a response until at least 6 months of developing the statement had past and 3 release dates missed. ;)

devu 2010-07-18 00:59

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Symbian on N900? hmm...

gabby131 2010-07-18 02:05

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iPhone customer got a defect on device. reports to apple. apple appologize and handed a new phone and says "we need to release an OS updatte"

customer bought a nokia phone......and then defect! reports to nokia, nokia says "sorry for the inconvenience" after that "we need to make a new device!"

aligatro 2010-07-18 03:10

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Originally Posted by gabby131 (Post 755388)
iPhone customer got a defect on device. reports to apple. apple appologize and handed a new phone and says "we need to release an OS updatte"

customer bought a nokia phone......and then defect! reports to nokia, nokia says "sorry for the inconvenience" after that "we need to make a new device!"

More like. People found a defect. Reported to apple. Apple said "you are holding it wrong" and "Relax it's just a phone." People scratched their heads and continued using the devices. Group of experts decided to test the antenna. Apple got scared and blamed everything on the wrong algorithm for calculating and said that everything is gonna be fixed. Now they are finally admitting it (that it's a design flaw) and offering a non-restocking fee refund for the phone. Also, apple promised to fix this defect at undecided date. (probably when they are gonna make a next phone xD) However, the nokia part is correct. They just flood the market with phones in hopes that some of them will turnout to be successful.

danramos 2010-07-20 09:30

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 754546)
We need to go back to the days of manually extending the external antenna. One of the many things lost in the cosmetic revolution..

Yanno... every phone I had before I got my Droid had an antennae that I could extend... and they were 100% clear and ALWAYS had excellent reception. I don't get it. I miss antennas too.

ossipena 2010-07-20 09:41

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Originally Posted by techngro (Post 754602)
Steve Jobs by himself could BUY Nokia.

yes in some imaginary world. if you'd know how stock markets function, you would not claim such things.

danramos 2010-07-21 21:58

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 757611)
yes in some imaginary world. if you'd know how stock markets function, you would not claim such things.

Who the hell TRULY understands how the stock market works? Certainly not anybody on Wall Street.

"The way to make a small fortune in the stock market is to first begin with a large one."

ndi 2010-07-21 23:18

Re: Nokia : We prioritize antenna performance over physical design
 
Just because the nature of the market is unpredictable doesn't mean it's not understood. Just because we can't predict every wave in the ocean doesn't mean a tsunami is suddenly doing to make a 90 degree turn and flow upwards.

Ossipena is right. There is no way for Steve to "acquire" Nokia. Should someone want to ditch the brand because it's sinking, then yes, it's possible for old turtlehead -er- turtleneck to pick it up.

Note, however, that no sane person alive would sell Nokia not because of net asset worth (assets don't work like in games, just because you have 40Bn doesn't mean you buy stuff), but because the value of the brand and the patents it holds are way, way beyond the "toss around" suggested.

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The Nokia brand, valued at $34.9 billion, is listed as the fifth most valuable global brand in the Interbrand/BusinessWeek Best Global Brands list of 2009 (first non-US company)
Also, Nokia also has stuff that isn't listed as asset but adds value to the enterprise. Here's one off the top of my head: Value of locations. Once encroached in the middle of the city, having that patch is more valuable than the bricks it's made of.

And remember, assets or no assets, when selling a business it's also about income. With over 1 Bn pouring in, there's another few you have to add to the sticker price.

Steve at his best estimate is at least a zero short of Nokia's worst estimate. Be reasonable.

Oh, and, Nokia is a public limited company and a strategic industry of Finland. There is no "for sale" sign at he entrance of Finland.


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