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lma 2010-09-20 13:37

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 821415)
For Diablo at least, I think we should go ahead and move local copies to Nemein.

That may not be possible, those repositories contain closed binaries owned by Nokia, and also IIRC their hosting implements checks for export controls (which I agree sucks, but ITAR is not under Nokia's or Nemein's control).

Stskeeps 2010-09-20 13:40

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 821451)
That may not be possible, those repositories contain closed binaries owned by Nokia, and also IIRC their hosting implements checks for export controls (which I agree sucks, but ITAR is not under Nokia's or Nemein's control).

We still have firmware images and debs and stuff since OS2005.. why would they start removing the repos?

lma 2010-09-20 14:08

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 821456)
We still have firmware images and debs and stuff since OS2005.. why would they start removing the repos?

Hosting costs and maintenance mainly. I hope they continue being available indefinitely, but it doesn't hurt to ask just in case, right?

Jaffa 2010-09-20 15:18

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
I've kicked off discussions on the prioritisation & work queue process on maemo-community:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...er/004519.html

Jaffa 2010-09-20 15:22

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 821477)
Hosting costs and maintenance mainly. I hope they continue being available indefinitely, but it doesn't hurt to ask just in case, right?

Asked.

Hopefully tekojo will state that the commitment about maemo.org given in the meeting extends to everything on tablets-dev.nokia.com as well. I can't imagine why it wouldn't.

lma 2010-09-20 16:29

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 821545)
Asked.

Hopefully tekojo will state that the commitment about maemo.org given in the meeting extends to everything on tablets-dev.nokia.com as well. I can't imagine why it wouldn't.

Ah, tablets-dev. That's important too of course, but what I really meant was the apt repositories (catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com and the Fremantle equivalents).

Jaffa 2010-09-20 16:42

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 821590)
Ah, tablets-dev. That's important too of course, but what I really meant was the apt repositories (catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com and the Fremantle equivalents).

Feel free to reply, I feel like I'm monopolising maemo-community today ;-)

lma 2010-09-20 16:51

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 821599)
Feel free to reply, I feel like I'm monopolising maemo-community today ;-)

Will do, but I don't want to mess up the threading so it'll have to wait until my daily digest arrives tomorrow morning.

SD69 2010-09-20 18:27

Re: Proposed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by lma (Post 821451)
That may not be possible, those repositories contain closed binaries owned by Nokia, and also IIRC their hosting implements checks for export controls (which I agree sucks, but ITAR is not under Nokia's or Nemein's control).

Well, assuming we're just talking the blacklisted countries, I would think Nemein can do export checks just as well as Nokia but admittedly I only know US, not Finnish, export controls. And really isn't this severely compromised from Diablo pov if Nokia doesn't license Nemein? Nokia may not want to have responsibility to field inquires re redistribution rights, etc., from either maemo.org or Nemein.

SD69 2010-09-20 18:32

Re: Proosed handover of maemo.org from Nokia should be discussed before people vote
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 821431)
Yes, see the meeting minutes.



In-sync with the half-year & full-year budgetary reviews at Nokia, see the meeting minutes.


Yes, see the meeting minutes. Anything Nokia want done goes through the same prioritisation process.

I did read the minutes but the answers weren't clear to me. Where are we on the six-month cycle - I mean is it June and December, etc.?

Edit: And now I've read the proposal on the mailing list for implementing the handover and while it's good to see action quickly taking place, pardon me, I still don't completely understand what has happened and I suspect others don't as well. The words "proposal" and "proposed" have been used but is it a done deal between Nemein and Nokia or are people assuming that it will be? If we were not in an election cycle, I would not be asking these questions, but can someone please fill us in?


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