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ericsson 2010-10-23 20:51
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 848957)
Where's the (real and practical) unique selling point for MeeGo; compared against Android, iOS and WP7?
None, that is the answer, at least as smartphones are concerned. I don't see any reason why MeeGo should be a great smartphone OS, at least not for some time when HW has evolved some more.

iOS has to be taken out of the list. iOS isn't sold separately. iOS and iPhone is one inseparable package. In a similar manner Symbian and Nokia is one package, at least that is how most people see it even though it is not technically entirely correct.

What we are left with that has some reality behind it is Android vs MeeGo on tablets. You may argue that people want Android. I say that is just US blogging nonsense. People want value, they want the web (and everything with it, and lots of it), they want HDMI, they want quality. The name of the OS means nothing. They want this :D The WeTab already outsells the iPad. That is what I have been trying to say. Get out the leeches, add value instead and it will sell. That is MeeGo.

edsall 2010-10-23 20:54
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Hey like me ! i love the phone(n900):D but really don't know how to use half the stuff that's inside this thing and i'm just a normal consumers! i hope i can take the stuff from this phone and put it on my next nokia that would be great for me !!

edsall 2010-10-23 20:57
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The stuff you guys talk about leave my poor head spinning !!:eek:

daperl 2010-10-23 21:46
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 848972)
The WeTab already outsells the iPad.
abill_uk, is that you? Seriously, step away from your keyboard.

fahadj2003 2010-10-23 22:14
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
FUD
thats all i can say till meego officially comes..

ericsson 2010-10-23 22:54
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 849028)
FUD
thats all i can say till meego officially comes..
I don't think MeeGo will be any more official than it already is. What you probably mean is when someone releases a device with MeeGo on it. Someone already has.The WeTab.

lanwellon 2010-10-24 01:12
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 848957)
Where's the (real and practical) unique selling point for MeeGo; compared against Android, iOS and WP7?
Agreed with ericsson. The answer is none.

And the Nokia will not open the UI to other vendors.

So, I dont think big vendor, such as motorola, sonyericsson, htc, samsung etc will use MeeGo.

And MeeGo may be appear at many place, such as in tablet, or in your car (actually, there are few products now), but it cannot be the reason for the success of MeeGo. Android can do the same thing.

If there is no 'killer advantages' on MeeGo,

then the apps & developers of iOS & Android will be dominant Pros to beat MeeGo.

Because they already exist and do quite well, why should I change to a new one with the same function ?

When Android came out, iPhone is still accumulating users, now both iOS and Android become stronger and stronger. WP7 is also a big player.

But when N9 release on 2011, it is too late.
The smartphone market has been occupied by iOS, Android and WP7 !

Benson 2010-10-24 01:25
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 848899)
too late for what? do you sign a contract with Win7, iPhone and/or android that you must use the same OS for the rest of your life or you must be killed or something?
Not killed or anything barbaric like that, they just confiscate your gonads when you leave.

Well, WinMob and Android wait till you leave, anyway. ;)

Texrat 2010-10-24 01:34
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 848847)
When Android came to town...

Blackberry = Strong in enterprise, generally weak everywhere else.

Apple = Strong contender, but had serious issues with Job's 'deathgrip' (artificial limitations). Targets the top niche of the price range.

Symbian = Weak brand name. Lots of hidden (buried?) capabilities. It was 'sold with the phone', imho they're much less so (not really?) a contender in this respect.
Feh. Symbian is a stronger brand name than iOS. iOS was predicted to take it all. Android has gained more share in shorter time. Etc etc etc.

Throw all the disclaimers, contradictions or qualifiers you like, the point stands: 2 newcomers have shown the apple cart CAN be overturned (pun unintended). Ergo, the outright fatalism directed toward MeeGo is nuts. Let's wait until the body is dead before burying it, eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 848972)
I don't see any reason why MeeGo should be a great smartphone OS, at least not for some time when HW has evolved some more.
...and MeeGo is an OS for the mobile computing future, where Moore's Law is cheerfully ensuring we'll very soon have devices to fully exploit its potential.

Laughing Man 2010-10-24 01:49
Re: IMO, MeeGo will be a tragedy on smartphone market like Maemo!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lanwellon (Post 849106)
Agreed with ericsson. The answer is none.

And the Nokia will not open the UI to other vendors.

So, I dont think big vendor, such as motorola, sonyericsson, htc, samsung etc will use MeeGo.

And MeeGo may be appear at many place, such as in tablet, or in your car (actually, there are few products now), but it cannot be the reason for the success of MeeGo. Android can do the same thing.

If there is no 'killer advantages' on MeeGo,

then the apps & developers of iOS & Android will be dominant Pros to beat MeeGo.

Because they already exist and do quite well, why should I change to a new one with the same function ?

When Android came out, iPhone is still accumulating users, now both iOS and Android become stronger and stronger. WP7 is also a big player.

But when N9 release on 2011, it is too late.
The smartphone market has been occupied by iOS, Android and WP7 !
Err.. WP7 just came out, how can it already occupy the smartphone market? And why would Nokia not opening their UI be a factor in other manufacturers not making Meego devices? Heck I think some of those manufactuers are the ones that have been making their own Android UIs that have led to delays in operating system updates.

There are reasons why Meego faces a hard road ahead, but Nokia not opening their UI is not a reason.


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