Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 946676)

Lifespan of five years for symbian may sound dumb but fact is not all people want smartphones or similar "complicated phones". Old people just want to have a very siomple phone. Thats where symbian40 still is valid.

and in european people still using symbian phones without dislike it ... My guess is that E7 can success or could until idiot elop scared them away by saying symbian is dead.

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 946791)

from what i've heard: no. they'll just save the state of an application when they switch. it'll not be multitasking.

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 946791)

from what i've heard: no. they'll just save the state of an application when they switch. it'll not be multitasking.

Originally Posted by alcalde (Post 946770)

Hint: When you go from 38% to 28% of the smartphone segment in one year, you don't say you had a good quarter. You say your company is heading for a death spiral unless something is done. It's this kind of denial that caused the board to go far outside and select Mr. Elop in the first place. Nokia's been far too complacent for far too long.

Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 946901)

2009 Windows had 12% of the smartphone market and in 2010 it had 3%! What do you make of that? WP7 has 1.5% today and does not seem to be going anywhere but down. Nokia is betting on the wrong horse!

Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 946903)

'Wrong' is a matter of perspective.

In this case the 'third horse' in the three-horse race is a Trojan horse filled with behind-the-scenes bonus deals. (For the right people, of course.)

Originally Posted by alcalde (Post 946770)

WP7 is getting multitasking, hardware accelerated HTML5 (which blows away iPhone 4 in the YouTube video) and several other updates this year. When it lands on Nokia phones it automatically becomes the #2 mobile OS as numerous tech articles point out today. Microsoft is pouring billions into this, etc., etc., etc. All the factors look positive and this pessimism is starting to get ridiculous;

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 946587)

Boards dont go looking for new CEOs without a reason.

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 946613)

They have no long term vision they only registered the domain for 1 year.

Originally Posted by alcalde (Post 946768)

It reads like a few of we nerds upset that we're not getting a toy we were promised and are throwing a temper tantrum. I used to sound like this sometimes... 20 years ago, when I was 18 and just entered college. :o
The idealistic if misguided kids who wrote this don't understand how the financial world works and they're going to have their hearts yanked out if they actually try to go through with this. A large amount of stock is owned by hedge funds, pension plans and large institutions. Their only concern is a return on investment. In many cases, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their clients to maximize ROI and could actually be sued for seeking to do otherwise. I've watched shareholders vote down proposals to not buy goods from companies that use child or prison labor, to offer equal benefits to gay and lesbian employees, etc. The first time you see a shareholders' meeting vote against protecting exploited children a little piece of your soul dies I think.
You can be sure Nokia shareholders are not people passionately committed to Linux or Qt; they want value for their investment and are going to go the way the CEO and the board (which approved the WP7 arrangement) advise to go. As exo noted, this isn't even a plan for a return to leading the smartphone market or increasing profits.

The author Dick Mitchell once wrote that when people are asked what their financial plan is, it's to make more money. He correctly wrote that that's not a plan, it's a wish or goal. If he were alive today, I'm sure he'd say the same of this statement from the cited website:



I don't think the former, and definitely, the current employees of Nokia who purportedly created this website have any idea how to do that. This makes it sound like Nokia's explicit strategy was to decrease market share and create inferior products, and all Nokia has to do is to want to make superior products again. Maybe the author of "The Secret" is one of the anonymous stockholders. :p