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mikecomputing 2011-07-29 11:09
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1060394)
Sorry, but for me Nokia can disappear even today. I'm 100% sure that community is ready enough to modify existing hardware to Maemo/Meego needs (CordiaTAB), and, after 2-3 years, design own, customized hardware (which Open Pandora guys proved doable long time ago).
Open Pandora will never be massoproduced and if you think thats cool go buy an n900 instead. its way cooler than Open Pandora. And with help of Meego N900CE and payed consults its way cooler.

So If you think that is possible without professionals/payed engineers you really are a dreamer...

Without Nokia Meego handset will fail. Until someone can prove me I am wrong...

And dont come say "LG" or "Intel" will suppoprt Meego. Intel != unintrested in Meego Handset cause theyr HW still sucks on small embedded.

and LG==still just rumors...

jo21 2011-07-29 11:13
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
WAIT WAIT.

Elop did split nokia into smartphone and dumbphones?

as in the smartphone part can be bought? OH MAN oh man.

ericsson 2011-07-29 11:14
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
I have said this before, but a hostile take-over, or any take-over, at Nokia is very unlikely, almost unimaginable. Lots of people would like well performing Nokia, but the present owners must also be willing to sell. Nokia is very much like VW, solid to the core. Besides Nokia as it is today is way too troubled for any serious buyer with enough cash.

Maybe a merge with SE or Huawei, or even HTC? which will work as a back door for Nokia into Android.

It is all way too speculative for me. I think Nokia will persist. WP will eventually carve out a nice market share for Nokia and Samsung to thrive. S40 will become something much more than most people is able to imagine (together with Bada), and Harmattan will live on as well as a nice little niche.

mikecomputing 2011-07-29 11:15
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1060443)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I don't want even a cent of my tax money spent on Elop's dream of mediocrity. We are already wasting billions of national wealth on PIIGs. That is enough money wasted on mismanaged cluster****s.

If goverment should do anything due to Nokia blow up, it should offer start-up money to new businesses that are now popping up from ex-Nokians and to existing small businesses that are looking to hire ex-Nokians.
FULLY agree! In Sweden we had lately had broken SAAB. Instead of waste money on a dead company support engineers who start new companys.

abill_uk 2011-07-29 11:23
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Nokia may have hit the lowest part of life as a company but no way will they come to an end as too many options are available for them.

ossipena 2011-07-29 11:40
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1060482)
European needs a tech company too.
..and USA needed their own car companies (which almost btw went bankrupt a while ago...) aka ridiculously big SUVs....

Daneel 2011-07-29 12:03
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Who gives a crap about Open Pandora. Estel just used as a reference.

Cordia Tab on the other hand looks really really good, smoku already has a development device.

You might want to check it out first before casting a stone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1060490)
Open Pandora will never be massoproduced and if you think thats cool go buy an n900 instead. its way cooler than Open Pandora. And with help of Meego N900CE and payed consults its way cooler.

So If you think that is possible without professionals/payed engineers you really are a dreamer...

Without Nokia Meego handset will fail. Until someone can prove me I am wrong...

And dont come say "LG" or "Intel" will suppoprt Meego. Intel != unintrested in Meego Handset cause theyr HW still sucks on small embedded.

and LG==still just rumors...

tkatchev 2011-07-29 12:08
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Where do you get the 'hostile' part from?

Elop and the Nokia board are acting anything but hostile. In fact, they're practically begging on their knees to be taken over and raped. The massive amounts of unrequited Microsoft love they're showing is downright creepy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1060495)
I have said this before, but a hostile take-over, or any take-over, at Nokia is very unlikely, almost unimaginable. Lots of people would like well performing Nokia, but the present owners must also be willing to sell. Nokia is very much like VW, solid to the core. Besides Nokia as it is today is way too troubled for any serious buyer with enough cash.

Maybe a merge with SE or Huawei, or even HTC? which will work as a back door for Nokia into Android.

It is all way too speculative for me. I think Nokia will persist. WP will eventually carve out a nice market share for Nokia and Samsung to thrive. S40 will become something much more than most people is able to imagine (together with Bada), and Harmattan will live on as well as a nice little niche.

abill_uk 2011-07-29 12:26
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1060524)
Where do you get the 'hostile' part from?

Elop and the Nokia board are acting anything but hostile. In fact, they're practically begging on their knees to be taken over and raped. The massive amounts of unrequited Microsoft love they're showing is downright creepy.
IF that is the case then can you blame them? after all MS can save there bacon ;)

gerbick 2011-07-29 12:29
Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1060524)
Elop and the Nokia board are acting anything but hostile. In fact, they're practically begging on their knees to be taken over....
Agree. But I wouldn't take their silence as fealty to Microsoft. Just a silent agreement to Elop's plan that WP7 may/may not work for them.

My only problem so far has been the notion that MeeGo was going to be their savior whereas it's not been a major money maker for Intel as of yet. Intel thinks in terms of generations and long-term.

Nokia doesn't have that luxury at this very moment. Perhaps behind the scenes, MeeGo will be a major player in 3, 4 generations down the path. But it was more than likely not going to be a mainstream seller because... well, nobody knows of it yet outside of us geeks.

Wait and see. That's my mantra (yet again).


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