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scapegoat845 2011-10-08 19:20
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1105576)
I have another question... what exactly does Bluetooth 4.0 bring to the table that's currently being utilized by the N9 - and it is confirmed that it's BT4, right?
Possibly a payment system using BT 4.0 instead of NFC ?
http://www.fastcompany.com/1785593/w...?partner=gnews

& due to it's low power consumption... "A host of medical and lifestyle devices could now sport proper wireless capability". We shall see

jalyst 2011-10-08 19:22
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1105599)
Wait. SWP for NFC is not dependent on bluetooth, it's a separate chip.
No you read the full blog post you'll get better context.
No SWP for N9, as it doesn't have the secure-element.
I've heard it's possible to add secure-element through SIM (if your carrier/bank supports it) or sticker.
But even then it depends on whether Nok. will support that.

I think they'll only support future phones with secure-element embedded.
But they don't seem to have even a vague plan to compete with Google Wallet yet.
They misguidedly seem to think the future with NFC is "elsewhere".
See the comments in particular in this article, there's a telling youtube vid. linked.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...-qt-sdk-update

Maybe they're just not telling us...
But they really need to speak-up soon, if they do have competing scheme planned.

Quote:
But how are they going from 2.1 to 4.0?
Drivers have it "crippled" at 2.1 levels but it's capable of more?
I assume so.

jalyst 2011-10-08 19:27
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scapegoat845 (Post 1105609)
Possibly a payment system using BT 4.0 instead of NFC ?
[url]http://www.fastcompany.com/1785593/what-the-heck-is-bluetooth-4?partner=gnews[/url
Interesting but IMO BT4 is totally unsuitable for that kind of application.
It has more security holes in it than swiss cheese....
Anyway this is all getting more into the realm of speculation (ala water-cooler thread)

mikecomputing 2011-10-08 19:49
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1105576)
I have another question... what exactly does Bluetooth 4.0 bring to the table that's currently being utilized by the N9 - and it is confirmed that it's BT4, right?
BT4.0 lower energy

However its still not confirmed if N9 will have it. It seems like they removed and maybe replaced it with an old chip. But first specs actually said it was BT4.0 :( :mad:

jalyst 2011-10-08 21:32
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1105637)
BT4.0 lower energy

However its still not confirmed if N9 will have it. It seems like they removed and maybe replaced it with an old chip. But first specs actually said it was BT4.0 :( :mad:
read post #48

mikecomputing 2011-10-08 21:45
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1105613)
No you read the full blog post you'll get better context.
No SWP for N9, as it doesn't have the secure-element.
I've heard it's possible to add secure-element through SIM (if your carrier/bank supports it) or sticker.
But even then it depends on whether Nok. will support that.

I think they'll only support future phones with secure-element embedded.
But they don't seem to have even a vague plan to compete with Google Wallet yet.
They misguidedly seem to think the future with NFC is "elsewhere".
See the comments in particular in this article, there's a telling youtube vid. linked.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...-qt-sdk-update

Maybe they're just not telling us...
But they really need to speak-up son, if they do have competing scheme planned.



I assume so.
My guess is payment with NFC+ some kind of secframework will be different based on region etc... for example I dont think google wallet will come too northeuropean for long.

In sweden it seems we will have it via simcard.

mikecomputing 2011-10-08 21:47
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
posted a question about lock/unlocking device on N9 and if its possible too customize it I hope too get some answer. (I guess its closed code but still hope...)

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=32897#post32897

maluka 2011-10-08 21:53
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Any Dropbox client available or being worked on for N9?

keflex 2011-10-08 21:55
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
I imagine you'll see cuteBox before long.

jalyst 2011-10-08 22:06
Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maluka (Post 1105708)
Any Dropbox client available or being worked on for N9?
see these two threads...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74154&page=17
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78515&page=4

Frist is focussed on community ports.
The 2nd is just anyone's favourite apps.


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