maemo.org - Talk - Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9 [0.1.1]

Well, the Aegis manifest (what my post talked about) is a major reason why Aegis can't simply be ripped out completely - anything that relies on gaining capabilities or switching users/groups through Aegis would break. Also, without Aegis it would be difficult to tell what sort of functionality a given program uses.

So does Inception let these options be or not? Because I don't know if it's worth to install it losing an option to control what capabilities/privileges my apps have...

Arie	2012-03-07 15:11

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

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Originally Posted by sahib (Post 1175710)

Not to poop on your parade or anything, but that's nothing but a coincidence/false positive.

The real reason I posted was to use the Lil Wayne image.

bnwg	2012-03-07 15:18

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

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Originally Posted by selfish_russian (Post 1175934)

For guys who wanna investigate into overclocking, this case is just like ours: http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/w/list

And the CPU is almsot the same.

If I recall correctly milestone uses TI OMAP3430. Droid X uses TI OMAP3630 which is same as N9.

However, Moto doesn't provide unlocked bootloader (even up to now). Therefore the overclock is in module, not from the kernel.

I'm so eager to see the overclock happened in N9 :) ....whatsapp of course.....draw something as well

qole	2012-03-07 16:04

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

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Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 1175625)

Although not Easy Debian, I have my own custom debian chroot script I've been working with (for Android, Kindle, and, now, Meego :)).

I was able to mount the loop filesystem... however, chroot is not working so far.

/home/user # /usr/sbin/chroot debian /bin/zsh
chroot: can't execute '/bin/zsh': Operation not permitted

[with aegis-exec]
/home/user # aegis-exec /usr/sbin/chroot debian /bin/zsh
chroot: can't change root directory to debian: Operation not permitted

Anyone have ideas?

twoboxen: those sound like the same issues I was having when using previous aegis hacks before the open kernel. There's no way to sign the binaries in the mounted chroot, which is why I suspect open mode will always required...

itsnotabigtruck

2012-03-07 16:43

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

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Originally Posted by ja-pc (Post 1175948)

So does Inception let these options be or not? Because I don't know if it's worth to install it losing an option to control what capabilities/privileges my apps have...

Oh! For the avoidance of doubt, INCEPTION doesn't disable Aegis. It merely allows you to access all of the privileges within Aegis. All your existing apps are left alone, as are apps you install normally - for INCEPTION to do its job, you must use the incept utility to install apps that require it.

Also, apps that take advantage of INCEPTION still use Aegis manifests, and you can still examine them to see what privileges they require.

It's possible to use INCEPTION to disable Aegis, but no one has done this (yet) - the benefits of doing this are debatable but it would be a useful thing to have available for those who want it.

sahib

2012-03-07 16:49

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1175952)

The real reason I posted was to use the Lil Wayne image.

Alright, sorry for being slightly condescending in that case.

Dave999

2012-03-07 16:56

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

Great. I will try this now. What do nokia say about this:) They possibly remove the "hole" in PR1.3?

Dragoss91

2012-03-07 17:37

Re: Announcing INCEPTION: Deeper access to your N9

I got this after invoking pasiv .

Do you wish to proceed? (yes/no): yes

|| Stopping package-manager daemon
kill: can't kill pid 2733: No such process
pasiv: fatal error occurred
RM696-07-1_PR_001:~#

And if I use accli -I I get only these privileges .

RM696-07-1_PR_001:~# accli -I
Current mode: normal
IMEI: 35792304786xxxx
Credentials:
UID::root
GID::root
CAP::chown
CAP::fsetid
CAP::setgid
CAP::setuid
CAP::net_bind_service
CAP::sys_chroot
CAP::sys_resource
CAP::sys_tty_config
GRP::root
GRP::adm
GRP::dialout
GRP::pulse-access
RM696-07-1_PR_001:~#

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