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volt 2012-08-13 11:11

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
For the same reasons that we discuss other things Nokia sell out, because it's relevant to the company's assets, future, stock prices.

I would think that's why.

Dave999 2012-08-13 11:14

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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1251276)
For the same reasons that we discuss other things Nokia sell out, because it's relevant to the company's assets, future, stock prices.

I would think that's why.

Oh, Thats why :)

Can this do it for nokia?

Real or Fake...Nokia Phi :p

http://www.wpdang.com/wp-content/upl...WP8-RUMOR1.jpg

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia...-board_id33148

mikecomputing 2012-08-13 20:24

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for **** same i have added lumiaman on my ignore list aand still see his qutotes and now I probdly get banned but anyway shut the **** up lumiaman eather your are really a ***** or just plain stupid troll. Swhat he hell is your point? You don have clue what you talk about and its only damn ****ing bussines and marketing ******** that made company doing stupid decision. Ou are just a damn nokia fanboy who would follow what ****ing damn direction they go anywayx just ****ing conti ue buy stocks if you beleive bey sttragegy!!

personally I will not.

volt 2012-08-13 20:50

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although i can't fault you for your thoughts, i think it's in your best interest with a bit of self moderation there, mike grabben.

Dave999 2012-08-13 21:33

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Way to many stars in that troll post.

On topic. Not so great day today for nokia stock :(

I wonder why?

specc 2012-08-14 05:06

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Originally Posted by number41 (Post 1251068)
WP not only raises the commercial bar, but it also enlargens your penis, gives you collegue degrees, gets you ripped in three weeks, and wins you green cards, right?

Suffices to say that MS has never competed on the basis of technology and innovation, most of it's "competing" resumes itself to legal manouvering, backroom deals, and putting the weight of its monopoly to good use. Let those cash hordes do their job, baby, that's how MS "competes".

Technology? There's nothing to compete with in said offering. Last I checked, it only runs on hardware MS selects, so an OEM can't select what hardware to implement it on.

Innovation? MS also has a tight grip on the code, no modifications allowed. What's there to innovate on, should Nokia release the next Lumias in a box of dry feces, so it matches the content inside? That would surely be a novelty..

While the situation of OEMs using others software is precisely the same, you seem to fail to acknowledge it due to being partial to WP. While android provides relative freedom for Oems AND users to modify the software, and provides Oems the freedom to run it in hardware of their choise, WP provides none of those, leaving no differentiation...

Come to think of it, it's the other way around... Android still has room for differentiation... On WP, given that both hardware and software are third-party controlled... That's where one can only compete on price.

But then again, much like WP won against an Android that beat it fair and square (in spite of WP cheating), WP is better "just because".

Grow up please. It's not about what is best using any of your favorite measuring sticks. Producing high quality HW is no less expensive for a Chinese company than a non-chinese company. The HW is produced in China regardless (or where ever the cost is smallest). With WP you have several sets of specs, lowest common denominator if you like, that (besides functionality and quality) also assures that it will be impossible for one company to just hack together some non branded HW and put WP on it.

At the same time there are no restrictions upward. The result is a competition about technology and features, not on price alone. Android has some of this, but not enough to create a lucerative market for the manufacturers. Samsung is the only manufacturer besides Huawei and ZTE that is able to make a profit. In a year Samsung will hit the wall. The economy is not sustainable, and there is nothing new or speculative about this. Google makes loads of profit, but nothing of that profit is redistributed to the HW manufacturers is another way of understanding this, there exist no mechanisms of doing it. Google will soon have to do something about this, or everything they have built will be gone. That is where Nexus an Motorola comes in. The only real Androids today are Nexus branded or is a Motorola. The others are copies.

ranbaxy 2012-08-14 06:04

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Originally Posted by specc (Post 1251557)
In a year Samsung will hit the wall.

Let's see :o

volt 2012-08-14 06:27

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Asha, not Lumia, has been lifting Nokia's stock prices. http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/13/nokia-...ness-analysis/

danramos 2012-08-14 08:23

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1251568)
Asha, not Lumia, has been lifting Nokia's stock prices. http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/13/nokia-...ness-analysis/

That is hilarious. :) ...And surprisingly commendable, I might add.

volt 2012-08-14 09:48

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
It's kinda like the market telling Nokia what they want, innit? You want to sell us WP? Here's what we'll do. We'll buy whatever else you have.

However Ashas success might be short lived. Other feature phone manufacturers, including Motorola, is dropping the entire segment because Android is falling in price.


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