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don_falcone 2013-01-24 10:53
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian
but Jolla haven't shown any interest in TMO, and seem to be encouraging people to use XDA.
...now if this is somewhat realistic, my interest in them is really diminishing. F$^* It seems i really don't get "them". XDA. Pah.
Soooo, let's create the proposed sub-forums, keep the domain name until further time has passed, then re-assess.

jalyst 2013-01-24 12:08
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Yes I pointed that out, but it doesn't mean we can draw sweeping conclusions that they'd prefer XDA to be the hub for "all things Qt Mobile".
Also, I don't blame them for wanting to raise their profile slightly more thanks to XDA...
We just have to become a "better XDA*", one that's a bit more specialised though, at least for starters.

*we already are in some ways, but there's def. a thing or two we can learn from them

saponga 2013-01-24 12:15
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1317143)
But I see no reason to prevent creating other ones just because some aren't interested yet. Others are and will be.
No problem here... as long as they help to pay the bills :D

shmerl 2013-01-24 17:09
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1317235)
No, these are two different topics.

In one side we have the proposal to include new OS and devices in our forums with their own subsection. Right now there is not enough material about Mer / Sailfish, but it's clear that they will be adopted by some of our members as the new iteration after Meego Harmattan.

Changing the Forums name or domain is a tricky question, that would imply that external references to forum threads wouldn't work. Actually I'm not completely decided what would be my position about this topic.
I don't think it's a problem to retain the domain name as maemo.org (unless you worry about trademark threats from Nokia). As others pointed out, the name doesn't dictate that discussions should be limited to Maemo (as XDA name is also historic and the scope of it is broader). I'm primarily intersted in the other subject - i.e. subsections for open mobile OSes which are missing on TMO already.

It's not like it's purely theoretical. There are already threads about Mer based systems (Nemo Mobile, Jolla/Sailfish and etc.), about Ubuntu mobile and even Firefox OS. They are scattered who knows where - in Meego/Harmattan section, in Alternatives section, in Competitors and even Offtopic section. It can't be called well organized or good approach as is.

Creamy Goodness 2013-01-24 23:53
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
They liked my post, don't assume they think XDA is better than our forum. I personally hate that place.

http://www.appcheck.net/storage/jolla-xda-fb.png

Some of you seem to be forgetting there are already two domains for this forum. Ever been to www.internettablettalk.com?

There is a blackberry 10 SDK and blackberry 10 apps already. Developers are always interested in blackberry as it's the easiest place to make money (historically).

We don't need to wait until after the migration of whatever other servers is done, adding forums in vbulletin is not more than a few clicks. The sooner we do it the better, people usually stay in one place. Giving them the option of posting here in 6 months is not going to do anything if they're already happy somewhere else.

rcolistete 2013-01-25 00:05
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1317049)
I disagree with those who said there is no need to restructure the forum. Looking at Harmattan and/or Competitors / Offtopics sections mess disproves this notion. No section for Mer derivatives may not bother those who use Maemo only, or Harmattan only, because they don't care. But those who use them have no place to post and discuss current developments. There is no reason to prevent it, except just to annoy people. Why do that? And don't be arrogant. A lot of people will appear soon who don't know or care about Maemo, and neither about Harmattan, but are interested in new platforms like Sailfish or Plasma Active. You don't welcome them on the forum? Or you propose them to post in Harmattan section, or may be in Offtopics? Think about that before saying there is no need to restructure anything.

Eventually who makes the decision on restructuring anyway?
Sailfish OS SDK and Ubuntu Phone OS SDK will be released in 1-2 months. So Maemo/MeeGo developers need ASAP new forum sections to share issues, info, etc, about porting software in Qt/Qt Quick to these new mobile OS.

I follow TMO since late 2009 with my N810. I've read a lot of criticism here against N900 from some Maemo 4 users. Then the same thing (worsed by lack of qwerty physical keyboard) against N9 from some Maemo 4&5 users. Let's not repeat this "shoot our feet" behaviour, please.

rcolistete 2013-01-25 00:14
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1317139)
Shouldn't we be focusing on making those devices the best that they can be, instead of just looking forward to the next shiny?
This thinking and also support new mobile OS are not exclusive if they share a common programming framework, like Qt/Qt Quick within Maemo 5, MeeGo Harmattan, Sailfish and Ubuntu Phone.

MartinK 2013-01-25 00:28
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
My proposal -> Add subforums for all of them, keep those that gather some traffic, move the rest to Old/Other. Let the TMO users themselves decide what platforms they care about. :)

thedead1440 2013-01-25 00:29
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Creamy Goodness,

Just FYI that Jolla Mobile Facebook page is a fan-group not the official page... The official one is Jolla (Official); see it on jolla.com... ;)

shawnjefferson 2013-01-25 01:57
Re: Restructuring the forum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1317385)
It's not like it's purely theoretical. There are already threads about Mer based systems (Nemo Mobile, Jolla/Sailfish and etc.), about Ubuntu mobile and even Firefox OS. They are scattered who knows where - in Meego/Harmattan section, in Alternatives section, in Competitors and even Offtopic section. It can't be called well organized or good approach as is.
But is there enough content to make a sub-forum even worth it? It sounds like the problem you mention above is more about forum moderation: moving threads to the appropriate section.


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